beagleboy Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 what do you think the proper punishment should be for poaching a deer. Do you know of any punishments that were past down in your state. Do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching I dont think a set puishment for all poaching is a good way to handle it.Theres to many variables that could be involved.Should the new hunter that honestly forgot to put his tag on his first deer in the excitement of the moment get the same fine as the career poacher who kills deer illegaly every year?Both of them are technically in possesion of an untagged deer. Ive seen polls taken on other sights as well.99% of the people that replied honestly have broken a fish and game law at some time in their past.A lot of them did it when they were yound and didnt realize the consequences.A lot of them didnt even realize at the time a law was being broke untill told later.That doesnt make it right, but flying off the deep end and taking hunting licenses, imposing multi thousand dollar fines, and jail time for first time offenders isnt neccassarily the best way to go IMO.People make mistakes, and people get smarter with age, but i think the puishment should be on a case by case basis.Before anyone starts Im not justifying poaching, Im just saying theres not a lotta guys who havent knowingly or unknowingly broken a law in there past, I think you can either learn from it, or spend the rest of your life paying for it, Im in favor of educating people i guesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beagleboy Posted September 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching I share your opinion on educating hunters on the subject of poaching and its consequences especially our younger generation of hunters. They are our future in this hunting community. Ialso believe if a person has in possession several untagged deer he/she knows they have broken the law and should be punished. What then. Take their license away for a few years. Majority of poachers don't even care about purchasing a license. What kind of fine should be imposed. Jail time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching If there in possesion of more than 1 illegal deer or have a history of poaching deer they should be dealt with just like anyone else whos stealing. Large fines, and lengthy jail sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longislandhunter Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching I think the penalty options available to a judge should be broad and varied and each case should be judged, and penalties levied, based upon the facts surrounding that specific poaching incident. I agree noone should be punished extremely harshly for a minor violation, however a poacher who is proven to be a repeat offender, or one whos acts truly warrant extremely harsh penalties should certainly receive such a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching I agree with the others, depending what the situation is, that's how the penalty should be justified. The only time I broke fish and game laws is when I was about 7 years old, I was out snowmobiling in January and saw a partridge up in a pine tree. I never thought about seasons because I was so excited with the opportunity to shoot my first partridge. I ran back, grabbed the pellet gun and popped him out of the tree. I'll never forget the look on my dad's face when I brought him up to the window of the house to show off. I learned my lesson though, and now that I know better, and am aware of all the laws, I definetly follow them! For something like that, I don't think there should be a charge, but for someone that goes out knowingly that they're breaking the laws, they should definetly be penalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching [ QUOTE ] I think the penalty options available to a judge should be broad and varied and each case should be judged, and penalties levied, based upon the facts surrounding that specific poaching incident. I agree noone should be punished extremely harshly for a minor violation, however a poacher who is proven to be a repeat offender, or one whos acts truly warrant extremely harsh penalties should certainly receive such a penalty. [/ QUOTE ] Could not agree more. The act of "poaching" is pretty broad, persons who are involved in serious violations should recieve serious penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching In Texas, there's a lot of leeway in sentencing. Repeat offenders can, and do, have their guns and vehicles confiscated, in addition to paying large fines and serving the occasional jail time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bubbles Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching they shall be hung....lol im just kidding, i tihnk like what horst said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching I agree with many. If someone is a repeat offender, he definetly knows he is breaking the law and should be dealt with harshly. Hopefully gun safety education classes are good enough to inform what the laws are to the starting hunters. For people who kill too many deer, don't bother to buy a liscense, or sell deer, throw the book at them good too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt01 Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching The punishment should be DEATH BY CRUSIFITION!!!! No I'm joking. Horst has the right idea. But the guys who poach lots of deer should be shot on the spot and then we will just tell them that we did not know the human season had not started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching Horst is right. Some people truly don't realize what they're doing and then you have some people who make their life's mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveGP Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching talking about poaching and punishment... i went and did some more scouting today... hunting in an urban area leaves lots and lots of nice big bucks in our area. well i have seen atleast ten different shooter bucks and one absolute hog. well when i was leaving i stopped and talked to the farmer and had him sign our new permission slips for this year and he told me he heard a gunshot from the road 2 nights ago.... now i drive the area sometimes at night just to look at the bucks. they seem to hang out in the fields not too far from the road at night... not sure why but they are always out by the road or atleast the ones i see... im sure there is more but i was fightin mad when he told me that... ive scouted and put in a lot of hard work helping the farmer so i have a spot to hunt and some poor slob is shooting from a car! i hope i see him in his car.... the farmer said it was a little white 4 cyclinder car with a bad muffler.... i know the warden around here... i used to hunt his neighbors place. it makes me SICK that people are that lazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py_archer Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching Well in my area it depends alot on the judge you go before. Propellor headed judges laugh at cases where the victim is an animal. They see their job as being there for people and IMO are too leniant on the hardcore poachers. Silly hunters who get all sentimental about a deer are in the minority around here. Plus, the ODNR's prosecuters will settle for anything just to get a conviction on their record and after it was in the paper twice proclaiming how the local scab rack cutter offer was arrested, but thats another story, this topic just makes me want to grow devil horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beagleboy Posted September 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching That's pretty sad. We put in all the time seeing what's out there and where the deer are doing and going and it only takes that one slob to end it all. It's not fair to us true hunters and not fair to that deer who had its head taken off and left on the side of the road. With all the money we sportsman put into the system and all the crap anti-hunting people do that these case are "laughed at." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad dryden Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching In indiana anything used to poach a deer its taken truck,guns or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigAl1781 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Re: punishment for poaching [ QUOTE ] In indiana anything used to poach a deer its taken truck,guns or whatever. [/ QUOTE ]....same here in Tennessee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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