Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 my budy shot a piebald deer this morning. any how we were talking about it wondering what causes the genitic mutation. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: piebal deer? It's a recessive gene carried by a lot of otherwise "normal" whitetails. You'd need a geneticist to explain what triggrers it, but I seem to recall that piebalds usually come from 2 normal parents and if you try to cross 2 piebalds they won't produce any fawns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: piebal deer? Your buddy did a great thing!!!! Piebald genetics are bad for a deer herd. They may look pretty but they should be thinned out of any herd ASAP! Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: piebal deer? the thing looks wered, like a cross between a goat and a deer. strange looking things. F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lilbuckmaster Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: piebal deer? whats a piebald deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Re: piebal deer? Good question. It's a whitetail that has an odd coloration, usually white and brown spotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? Thats cool Frank. Never seen one in the field here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? I was talking to a deer biologist and he thinks that this piebald was caused by inbreading. wich could explane his bone structure in his face. I ran to the taxedermist last night and grabed the skull and jaw bone. looks as if he is 2.5 but i'm no pro when it comes to ageing jaw bones. we have 4 of them in the area that we know about, 3 that are alive Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? I've only seen one in the wild, and it was from a highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? [ QUOTE ] whats a piebald deer? [/ QUOTE ] My brother saw one once. He said it looked like some tossed a bucket of white paint on a brown deer. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? here is my buddies deer Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsmola Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? congrats to your buddy, I got this game cam pic back in April, I'll be keeping an eye out for this guy come November. He's the only exception I'll make in our QDM. I haven't seen this buck in person, but I have seen a piebald doe in the wild before, she had just a tiny bit of brown on top of her head, the rest of her was almost completely white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? The doe I saw the other day had big black spots as well. hope to get a crack at her this weekend. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsmola Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? oh so there's more in your area, it seems that once you see one piebald, you start seeing lots of them. I noticed this in conversations with other hunters on the internet who took multiple piebalds in a season, and it seems to be true here as well. We had never seen a piebald before last season and I know of at least 3 that have been seen in our area since then, possibly more. I wonder why this is, does the inferior gene really get passed on that easily? I'd love to hear what a biologist would think about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? I've seen a big buck that looks like that... Frank, on belair rd heading north before the big gunpowder river on the right...... 1st time i saw it i thought,,, geeezz there's a cow up there,,, then i slowed down to take a 2nd look and it was a large bodied buck that was white and brown spots all over it......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? FF that is cool. from what I understand you realy don't see to meny with larger antlers. I saw one once up in Carroll county, in the morgan run area it looked like a paint horse with an 8pt rack on it (a big 8pt rack) Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitcha_some Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? Frank ive seen lots in the loch raven area sorta near you, going up towards jacksonville before....there are also a couple completly albino does in that area always on that tall grass field on the left...they will probably get poached by some ****hole though, thats the sad truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: piebal deer? [ QUOTE ] The doe I saw the other day had big black spots as well. hope to get a crack at her this weekend. Frank [/ QUOTE ] Black spots!!!!!!!! Now you are talking about melanistic deer. That's another topic. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_BUCK_1 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: piebal deer? piebalds are some weird deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: piebal deer? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The doe I saw the other day had big black spots as well. hope to get a crack at her this weekend. Frank [/ QUOTE ] Black spots!!!!!!!! Now you are talking about melanistic deer. That's another topic. Ranger [/ QUOTE ] that is what was wierd, she had the brown and white spots likt a piebald but the black spots as if she was a melanistic deer as well. GS I know the ones you are talking about, I see them alot driving up the pike. I'd venture to say that the one I saw and the one that my buddy shot are the same deer. we only hunt 1 to 2 miles from there and there is more then enough woods for them to travel thru. but maybe they arnt. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colescott1 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: piebal deer? We had 3 does running around our part of northern Carroll County about 5 years ago...all white. Never had binoculars on to see if had a pink nose (i.e a true albino). I know they were special to see...definately different, and they either died off or were shot. Never saw them while hunting, but saw them all the time while driving the same road to and from my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lilbuckmaster Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: piebal deer? thats a weard looking deer if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: piebal deer? yeah they sure are odd lookin' deer. we saw an albino doe near our place about 4 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMSD5 Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: piebal deer? hunted an area once that had a lot of them, since i was new to deer hunting at the time i never shot one....but have seen more of them and some of them were black and white also ...thought they were goats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigAl1781 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Re: piebal deer? i saw a doe like that 6 years ago in a clearcut,,,,couldnt get a shot though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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