Squirrelhunter91 Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 In the reservoir that I have been fishing at lately, I have been seeing, well I always have seen it but now more than ever, a huge orange fish that keeps swimming around. I have no idea what the heck it is. But I do have an idea. Upstate at our cabin, a neighbor has a little pond in his backyard that has the same kind of fish. I asked him what they were and he said a name I can't remember but I do remember the fact that he said that they grow up to be carp. Is this fish a carp? It does not bite on any of my lures, it ate worms that I threw out there the other day, but it does nothing other than swim around. Could it just be a goldfish that someone released back there that grew really big? I want to know what kind of fish it is and what I should use to try and catch him. He comes into the shallows and also goes into the deep parts of the reservoir. I also notice that he chases the trout around in there too. What should I use to catch the trout also? NYS DEC stocks this reservoir every year with 1600 trout, but they seem to stay in the deep part of the reservoir. What should I do about both fish? Any suggestions on lures or bait? I do not have the option of going out there with a canoe or kayak, that would be awesome if I did. Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... The only kind of fish that has an orangish colour to it other than a goldfish is a carp, that's probably what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLH Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... I would also say it was a carp. We have them in some of our lakes that are orange in color. They usually get up to around 6-8lbs and can be caught on dough balls. As far as the trout, try trolling with a hopkins spoon or inline rooster tails; that's how we catch them in deep water here. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... They could also be coy (or koi) fish. They look a lot like big goldfish and are used in garden ponds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missed160 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Goldfish are part of the carp family. I would agree that these are either some type of carp, or released fish.. Best way to get em------- Bow & a barbed arrow.. As the water temp cools down I think the trout should come in & become more accessable to you. A good way to get a shot at both types of fish, if it's legal where you're at, would be to chum with some canned corn. It'll attract both types of fish, then for the carp, put a few kennels on a hook,with a wieght aout a foot up, & put it out there.. For the trout, 1 kerrnel on a small hook under a boober usually does it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... HuntinginMaine is right. It is probably a koi that someone released. ( Highly illegal to do that here) We saw some this past summer on the Choctawhatchee River. We were idling up a creek that was crystal clear and saw a couple of HUMONGOUS fish that resembled carp, but one was pale blue and one was party colored. They both looked to have weighed around 40 pounds each. You will have to fish for them like you do for carp Joe. And good luck. Let us know how that goes. I have found that carp fishing is not as easy as they make it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Give me some more identifying features. Is it orange all over, or is the back and/or belly a different color? How long is the fin on it's back in relation to the total body length? How big are the scales? Dime sized, quarter sized, bigger? Does it have barbles (whiskers)? Are the scales mirrored? Does it ever jump or flop on the surface? Anything else you can think of? Gee, I love a mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Texan, It is orange on top and white on its belly. Not sure about fin size. Not sure about scale size either. No it does not have any whiskers ( from what I can tell) I don't think the scales or mirrored. What does that mean? Does this mean they reflect light? Yes it jumps frequently in the deep part along with the trout and is very agressive toward the trout. I sometimes also find it in the shallows and almost on land. A couple of times I have considered nailing it with a rock or a baseball or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birddog Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... sounds like a carp to me: I am searching for a pic: Those "goldfish" can sometimes grow that big if released...an albino carp would carry many of those markings...get a bow, I say! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Sounds like a Koi that has been released. Basically an overgrown goldfish/sucker looking thingy that can be orange, white, black, or any combination of the three. Probably got too big for someones aquarium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyrod64 Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... I agree, it's more than likely a carp. We have alot around here at Lake Junaluska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... always thought koi were in the carp family, but yeah, that's what it sounds like. we have a pond in the city that people released gold fish into, they get big really fast when they have room to grow. get them out of there if you can - good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Did it look anything like these?? KOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... huntin girl, the first pic on the page is what it looks like, but it has a white underbelly and no white on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwa Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... It sounds like a carp to me also. Carp come in a wide variety of colors. The carp we have down here that I have seen are gray to a golden brown color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... Could be a large golden rainbow, or a big Koi goldfish. A little berkleys powerbait in a size 18-20 treble hook with a few small split shot 2 feet up the line and 2-4lb line will get you on some of those trout. A St croix rod wont hurt either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otdrzmn04 Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... my guess is a grass carp. they are used to help control vegetation in some lakes and ponds. they can grow to 30lbs or even larger so seeing one 3ft long is normal. Most Koi and grass carp are sterile and are bought by private landowners to help keep their ponds looking "clean". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M00N Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... My guess is Ornamental Carp aka Koi Carp that someone released. More than likely some species of carp. http://www.carpuniverse.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Re: Need help identifying a fish... M00N, that link was very helpful! Go to that site and look under "Grass Carp" That's what it looks like but orange on top and white on the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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