ParrotHead Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Well, you can sure bet the democrats will be crying foul about this one for quite some time. Let us remind them that at least our Repbulican took money illegally from American's and not the Koreans as Clinton did! As for my own opinion based solely off what I've read and heard, he's been caught red-handed on this one and for him to go ahead a step down as majority leader shows he's starting to take some responsibility. Now whether it's proven in court is a whole 'nuther thing. Myself, I don't have a problem that it's a Republican or a democrat, if you broke the law then you need to pay your debt to society. I just hope that what the media's already put out there is as false as some of the stories about New Orleans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? I haven't followed the particulars on this case, but I do know the track record of District Attorney Ronnie Earl of Austin. So far he's gone after Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Sen. Phil Gramm, Gov. Rick Perry and several other prominent Texas Republicans and has achieved exactly 0 convictions. BTW - Ronnie Earl is also a Democrat political activist whe he's not DA'ing. [ QUOTE ] Let us remind them that at least our Repbulican took money illegally from American's and not the Koreans as Clinton did! [/ QUOTE ] Clinton took campaign contributions from the Koreans? I thought it was the Chinese? No wait, it was both! Sorry, my bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? Outcomes will be alot of democrats crying about Delay on into 2008 and using this to attempt to sway voters away from republican candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? [ QUOTE ] I haven't followed the particulars on this case, but I do know the track record of District Attorney Ronnie Earl of Austin. So far he's gone after Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Sen. Phil Gramm, Gov. Rick Perry and several other prominent Texas Republicans and has achieved exactly 0 convictions. BTW - Ronnie Earl is also a Democrat political activist whe he's not DA'ing. [/ QUOTE ] He's gone after Democrats also, not sure of any convictions though. Just remember, it's not the lawyer who indicted Delay, it was the grand jury, and I doubt they found an all liberal, democratic jury to indict him on the evidence. I have really no opinion on this one way or the other, because as soon as I jump on Delay for his supposed violations, there will be a Democrat accused/guilty of the same things. The only difference between an honest politician and a crooked politician is the honest one hasn't been caught yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lostiniowa Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? does anything really suprise you with any polical figures today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? [ QUOTE ] Just remember, it's not the lawyer who indicted Delay, it was the grand jury, and I doubt they found an all liberal, democratic jury to indict him on the evidence. [/ QUOTE ] In Austin, TX it's very possible they did have a predominantly liberal grand jury. That's an extremely liberal city and county and neither side get's to pick and choose the jurors. Another point to consider is that the defense doesn't really present any evidence. It's all the prosecution's show at that stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? [ QUOTE ] Just remember, it's not the lawyer who indicted Delay, it was the grand jury, and I doubt they found an all liberal, democratic jury to indict him on the evidence. [/ QUOTE ] As I understand it, this is the third or fourth time he's taken this to different grand juries and he's finally got one to indict. Shop around long enough and you can get what you want. I'm not saying what Delay did was right or wrong, but it sure does smack of politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? One other thing that bothers me is the charge itself - Conspiracy. Usually, that's something that's thrown in on top of some type of criminal activity, not just as the only charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmunster Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Re: Conspiracy in Texas???? Drudgereport.com Earle Seeks Second Delay Indictment After Errors With First Tue Oct 04 2005 10:29:52 ET The AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN reports, Travis County prosecutors rushed Monday to fix problems with an indictment against DeLay by charging him "with the first-degree felony of money laundering. Last week a Travis County grand jury ended its term by indicting DeLay on a charge that accused him of conspiring to violate state campaign finance laws. The problem with that indictment, according to DeLay's lawyers, was that the conspiracy law did not apply to the election code in 2002. The Texas Legislature changed the law, which went into effect Sept. 1, 2003. That left Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle and his assistants presenting a complicated case to a group of grand jurors on their first day of meeting. Prosecutors hoped to fix the problem by reindicting DeLay on charges that he conspired to launder corporate money into political donations. In 2002, the conspiracy law applied to money laundering. Developing... ______________________________________ Hopefully, that doesn't throw Ronnie Earle's movie off that he is making about indicting Delay. It wouldn't be much of an ending without some type of indictment. Ronnie Earle Movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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