JimT Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Your Fired! I wont be applying for a job at this company any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I just read that, you beat me to it. That is a crock, what a bunch of heartless people to do that. Nope, difantely not a place I would work at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired Thats disgusting that a company would fire a person for that what a disgrace.... I sure hope someone steps up and hires her right away what a aggravating story to read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired That's too bad....but I think she should have called in when she returned on the 16 th and told them she would be back to work on the 18 th. They were expecting her to return on the 17 th and she didn't show. She will soon find a higher paying job, that she doesn't deserve, just because a lot of people feel sorry for her. She had already been off for a week, and maybe it was someone else's chance to begin their vacation to deer hunt, in Alaska, that had been planned and paid for, far in advance. Remember there were other factors involved that the manager didn't divulge to the press. ....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I don't care if she didn't return on the 17th or not. This woman was saying goodbye to her husband and if she does get a better paying job then good for her, she probably deserves it. Why is it some people always see the worst in others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired popgun, I do beleive that she told her employer that she may or may not be in on the 17th, but definately on the 18th, so technically she did inform them that she would not be in, IMO. And how do you know she will find a higher paying job she doesn't deserve, have you met this woman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I would bet money that there is a lot more to this story than we know. Maybe she has a history of being late or not showing up for work, or maybe attitude problems at work. She describes herself as a model employee who always showed up for work, well, thats what she is gonna say to the press, do you think she is gonna say, "Well, I told my boss that I was leaving and if he didn't give me the time off I was going anyway, then, I told him I'll be back to work on the 17th, but, because I needed another day off I took it regardless of what they had planned." She's not gonna bring up the negative stuff, but, from what it sounds like, this company probably isn't very big, she worked at the front desk, on Mon, Tue, Wed. It sounds to me like she said she would try to be back on the 17th, she was back, and available to work on the 17th but because she was "emotionally drained" she decided not to work on the 18th, nothing was ever said if she called the day before and said she wouldn't be there. By all accounts, since she didn't call the 17th and say she couldn't make it on the 18th, they expected her to be there. By what she said, she makes it sound like they knew she wasn't going to be there on the 18th, she said, they said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired "Remember there were other factors involved that the manager didn't divulge to the press." ....popgun And naturally you assume the worst. I think the manager only said that because he's embarassed now because of all the publicity it is getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired Legally the manager cannot disclose any information without written permission from the employee. Now days when calling to check references you can't ask why they were fired or any specifics. All they can tell you is if the person was dismissed or eligible for rehire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired [ QUOTE ] He added that other factors were involved in the decision, but he declined to elaborate [/ QUOTE ] That tells the whole story to me. They were looking for another reason to can her and she provided it. People get fired everyday, and she is no different. If she had been an exceptional employee, without any problems, I feel sure she would not have been fired. Good employees are just to hard to come by. Plus they had already given her a week off and she was supposed to return to work on Monday. No show, no call, bye bye. The only reason this is being discussed is because her husband is in the service. I have the utmost respect for him and all others that defend this country, but those of us that don't still have a job to do, and the companies we work for depend on us to do those jobs. If they can't depend on an employee, they no longer need that employee. I imagine, like I believe Popgun said, through the media coverage she gets over this, not only will she find a better job, but Oprah will probably put her on TV to tell how bad of an injustice has been done to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired So if a company just decides to shut their doors and not tell the employees until they come to work the next morning and find a sign on the gate then that would be ok too because the employer is the one that need them. I depend on the company I work for the same way they depend on me. If they have problems I work more or solve them, If I have problems they work with me to solve them. Alot of companies don't understand that concept anymore and as soon as they get mad at an employee they fire them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He added that other factors were involved in the decision, but he declined to elaborate [/ QUOTE ] That tells the whole story to me. They were looking for another reason to can her and she provided it. People get fired everyday, and she is no different. If she had been an exceptional employee, without any problems, I feel sure she would not have been fired. Good employees are just to hard to come by. Plus they had already given her a week off and she was supposed to return to work on Monday. No show, no call, bye bye. The only reason this is being discussed is because her husband is in the service. I have the utmost respect for him and all others that defend this country, but those of us that don't still have a job to do, and the companies we work for depend on us to do those jobs. If they can't depend on an employee, they no longer need that employee. I imagine, like I believe Popgun said, through the media coverage she gets over this, not only will she find a better job, but Oprah will probably put her on TV to tell how bad of an injustice has been done to her. [/ QUOTE ] Well said texas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I agree with it should work both ways, and I think that comes back to be a good employee. I know we take care of our good employees, because they take care of us. If you work at a lousy company, as soon as you can find a better job, you will take it and leave the lousy company for greener pastures. It goes both ways. Lousy employee, get rid of them. Lousy company, find a new one. That is what I am trying to say. I don't think that the fact that she was 1 day late returning to work is the reason she was canned. It might have been the last reason, but I feel sure there were others leading up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired The article said she failed to show the day AFTER he departed. The guy was already gone. It's better for her to get to work than sit and sulk. Either way, there was other underlying reasons I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired the whole deal sucks, other reason or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired We are given only 3 days off for the funeral of a family member! On the 4th day if your not back to work and don't call in you're fired. I bet your jobs are the same. Why should she be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronS Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I'm with popgun, slugshooter (Oh my God, heck must have frozen over) , and texastrophies on this. There is more to this story than just what is in the article. I have my doubts that she was such a stellar employee and that she is as much a victim as they are making her out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdickey Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired [ QUOTE ] I would bet money that there is a lot more to this story than we know. Maybe she has a history of being late or not showing up for work, or maybe attitude problems at work. She describes herself as a model employee who always showed up for work, well, thats what she is gonna say to the press, do you think she is gonna say, "Well, I told my boss that I was leaving and if he didn't give me the time off I was going anyway, then, I told him I'll be back to work on the 17th, but, because I needed another day off I took it regardless of what they had planned." She's not gonna bring up the negative stuff, but, from what it sounds like, this company probably isn't very big, she worked at the front desk, on Mon, Tue, Wed. It sounds to me like she said she would try to be back on the 17th, she was back, and available to work on the 17th but because she was "emotionally drained" she decided not to work on the 18th, nothing was ever said if she called the day before and said she wouldn't be there. By all accounts, since she didn't call the 17th and say she couldn't make it on the 18th, they expected her to be there. By what she said, she makes it sound like they knew she wasn't going to be there on the 18th, she said, they said. [/ QUOTE ] I actually agree with every bit of your statement! And yes, most likely she was on her last "inch of rope" with her employer. Speaking from that side of the fence.... she most likely "pushed the envelope" beyond the edge. At least she can now file for un-employment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrrophybowhunter Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired I heard this on the radio last night. What a bunch of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired If the company can't depend on her, get rid of her. It does sound like this was just more ammo for getting her out the door. Now she can sit home and sulk all she wants. I hate whiney weekend warrior families when the military person is actually called upon to do their job. It's ok with the extra money, training, benefits, until Uncle Sam asks them to do their job and the whining starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired Two sides to every story. You should know by now the papers and media are going to spin it towards the direction that causes the most outcry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Re: Woman Sees Husband Off to Iraq, Gets Fired [ QUOTE ] Two sides to every story. You should know by now the papers and media are going to spin it towards the direction that causes the most outcry [/ QUOTE ] You guys know that I am familiar with the media...the phrase I have heard them use is "If it bleeds, it reads"...not so much meaning actually blood, but just juicy. I AM NOT a fan of the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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