fisherguy Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Ok, i have pretty much decided i will be buying a Sako 75 stainless laminated in 7mm rem. mag, or a Tikka T3 laminated stainless in 7mm rem. mag. My question is this, the Sako is $1400 Canadian, and teh Tikka is $1000. I am not too concerned about teh extra 400 if it matters, but am not sure if there is a difference i will notice for hunting purposes. They look and feel pretty much the same to me, is there a going to be a difference in performance and durability? Second, i will be selling my remington 7600 30-06. It is in good shape, 10 years old, but doesn't shoot great groups with any ammo, and has had some other problems. I will be honest with a buyer about it's problems so what is a reasonable price? A new one is a bit over $700. Thanks for the help once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. The Sako does not have the plastic parts the T3 does. Is the difference worth $400? I don't know. Thats a personal decision. Some say life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun. Either one will kill critters as well as the other. I don't know if you will see a big performance difference (group size) from one to the other. As for the price, I don't know what the market in your area is like. I would guess in the $400c - $500c range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Colorado Bob Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. fisher----I would get the Tikka & put the extra money into a VX-II 3x9 40 mm Leupold. IMO the best scope out there for us blue collar guys. Question I have is why the 7 Mag over the 30/06. Ammo is more expensive & I would think a 220 grain 30/06 would have moose written all over the box. FYI--I bought last a Tikka last year in 30/06-----one of the last LH whitetail series. Scope i put on was the VXII-----in 30/06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. [ QUOTE ] The 30/06 is the standard gun of choice where I live and I just don't get it. [/ QUOTE ] Possibly because it is a great choice for most big game. It was a perfect blend of accuracy, speed, and energy to work for big game in North America. Its been out for 99 years and is the most popular big game cartridge. [ QUOTE ] It's not a great deer gun and not a great moose gun, it's simply a bit of both. [/ QUOTE ] Why is not not a great deer gun? I would venture to say that is has dropped more big game than all other cartridges. [ QUOTE ] The .280 was created because a smart hunter was looking for a gun with the punch of a 30/06 and the accuraccy of a .270. [/ QUOTE ] Not true. It was created to get the slightly flatter trajectory of the .270 Win with the heavier bullet selection like the 30-06. The .270 is not more inherently accurate than the .280 Rem or the .30-06. [ QUOTE ] The 7 mm Rem Mag is a .280 on steroids. A simple look at the balistics will tell you the 7 mm is the right gun. [/ QUOTE ] I would say its a .280 that has just returned from the gym. The 7mm STW or 7mm RUM is on steroids. There is not a big gap between the .280 Rem and the 7mm Rem Mag. I suggest you look at reality. Check out the Cartridge Comparison thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. I could explain it to a few times but you still would not get it. Some can not see the forrest because of all the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. I dunno ripper, I have a Remington 30.06 ADL that has shot "bullet hole-touching-bullet hole" groups for 30+ years. Its been in my family for a long time and has been dubbed the "Tack Driver" by many family and friends. This is out to 100 yards with a 30+ year old Redfield 3x9x32 scope. It has since been topped with a Leupold VXIII 3x10x50 a couple weeks ago and gets the same groups... To me the 30.06 is your general purpose hunting rifle. It can take squirrels to moose and bigger... Ok maybe not squireels, those suckers are mean... LOL Its an economical rifle for those who dont have the means to buy a 270 for deer, and 7mm for elk, and 300 RUM for moose, etc, etc... The 30.06 is a great caliber but like EVERY other gun out there, you NEED to find what the gun likes to shoot. For years I though this only pretained to ML sighting in but have since seen a dramatic different in bullet design and grain weight in the same caliber shell. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. Now THAT I agree with. Nothing better then having confidence in your guns accuracy when the moment of truth comes... For the record I hunted whitetails with a 300 Ultra Mag for the past 5+ years and took my deer every year. Over kill? No such thing. Can't be any deader the dead... LOL Just recently went back to dads old .06 for the sake of it being his and my grandfather gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. I still have it for sale. $490 with a box of shells. (plus shipping) LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. Ok Bill, perhaps if you can explain what exactly the 7mm Mag does so much better, it will help. Accuracy is not a valid argument. I have a 7mm Mag that shoots 2" groups. I have 30-06 guns that shoot sub MOA groups. How the person at the factory made the barrel, selected the barrek, machined the chamber, assembled the gun, has more to do with accuracy than the cartridge its self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. [ QUOTE ] fisher----I would get the Tikka & put the extra money into a VX-II 3x9 40 mm Leupold. IMO the best scope out there for us blue collar guys. Question I have is why the 7 Mag over the 30/06. Ammo is more expensive & I would think a 220 grain 30/06 would have moose written all over the box. FYI--I bought last a Tikka last year in 30/06-----one of the last LH whitetail series. Scope i put on was the VXII-----in 30/06. [/ QUOTE ] I already have a new leupold vx-II 3-9 by 50 mm i bought last week to go on the gun. I am getting the 7mm because it will shoot a bit flatter. The 30-06 loaded with 220's kicks too much for my liking. I am picking up a semi-auto 30-06 that i will use for deer hunting, and moose deer combo days in areas where shots are certain to be close. I will stick with teh 180's though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Re: Two questions. Wow this thread is well off topic. lol Ripper, i love the 30-06 and think it is an absolutely great rifle for deer and moose. The reason i am selling mine is that it is a dud. My dad had a remington semi-auto 30-06 that he has had for 30 years and that thing is a tack driver. IF i was just going to have one of teh two i would be buying a new 30-06 in a bolt action, but luckily being young and single frees up the cash to buy both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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