Guest TIGER81 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 WHEN DO YOU THINK THE SECOND RUT IS GOING TO PICK UP AROUND HERE, IM IN CENTRAL MN. ANYONE GOT ANY IDEAS?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stsi36 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? sry im from MI we get post rut in early october so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebobhunter4 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? im from north dakota... i think the rut is pretty much rappin up around here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? The second rut (or secondary rut) around here is basically, just a slow down of rutting activity after the peak of the major rut. It doesn't really stop and then start up again, it just continues at a slower pace, somewhat the same as it was just before the peak...you know...on one day, off the next. Bucks will be looking for unserviced late does in oestrus, right through December around here. I've heard guys use the term 2nd rut, 3rd rut, etc, but to me and from what I've seen, it's just a secondary rutting activity that runs on from the main rut, just not as hot, and not as heavy. That is about the limit of my knowledge on the subject I believe that doe-in-oestrus scents work great after the major rut, because the bucks are tired, but still looking and wanting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py_archer Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? The term "rut" to me means when the majority of the doe's are in heat. This year according to my observations(in my area) that was around the 12 of November. Any Doe's that did'nt concieve will come into estrous again in 28 days. So around Dec. 10 will be the second "rut". Then around Jan. 7th will be the third and final "rut". Obviously by that time few Doe's will have failed to concieve but it does happen. Also yearlings may also come into estrous during Dec. and Jan. but good luck predicting that. With that said the "breeding season" last from Oct.(older Doe's) to Jan.(yearlings and Doe's that failed to concieve for one reason or another). Although semen levels drop off Bucks can breed all year long. Photoperiodism is the #1 controling factor when Doe's come into estrous and all the other variables just influence it somewhat. The moon definately affects Whitetail behaviour but does not determine breeding as some outdoor writers would have you believe. Do not underestimate the power of the 2nd rut as it is for real. Feel free to hash on my comments as I am always willing to learn about this fascinating subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitRmisS Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? I have always heard of the second rut being when the younger does come in to the esterous cycle later, but im not saying this is fact just what i have heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? I pretty much agree with py archer, which is surprising. Totally agree on the "2nd" rut. The biggest deer I ever shot was taken on December 27th, and I'd almost swear he was coming into the Tinks I had hung all around my tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckNrut Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? The 2nd rut is beginning in upstate NY now. Just in time for the last weekend of the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kk9fan Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? Hey Tominator, I hunt Lorain County and I barely saw any signs of the 1st Rut. Do you think it was because most of the activity happened at night, becasue of our poor weather we had. Wonder if the 2nd Rut will be any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? [ QUOTE ] Hey Tominator, I hunt Lorain County and I barely saw any signs of the 1st Rut. Do you think it was because most of the activity happened at night, becasue of our poor weather we had. Wonder if the 2nd Rut will be any better. [/ QUOTE ] I hunt in Portage and Geauga counties, and I saw a lot of chasing real early, but I didn't see much rut action this year. I think the warm weather had a lot to do with it. Fall '05 was bad for hunting and fishing IMO, all due to warm weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? There defintely is a 2nd rut. I shot one of my best bucks that I heard grunting towards me for over five minutes. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TIGER81 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? THANKS FOR THE INFO. I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LARGE 10 POINTER FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW AND HOPEFULLY I CAN STICK HIM THIS WEEKEND. THANKS AGAIN WELL HAVE TO SEE HOW IT PANS OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdeerhunter03 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? go get him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? i wish it would start here!!!!! there not moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6sixpoint_nobrows Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? its about ready here...give it a little more time and its here for us.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py_archer Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? [ QUOTE ] which is surprising. [/ QUOTE ] Hey Now! Was it something I said?? [ QUOTE ] on one day, off the next. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? The second rut is kicking in about now around southern IL. Pretty exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whttlbucksteve Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Re: 2nd rut? Good luck on that big 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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