Guest holt525 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 What would you guys recomend is a muzzleloader wont go off?? Is it the powder or am i just doin somthing wrong?? I shoot 100gr. of 777 pellets and a sabot bullet out of a tc black daimond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: ??????? Try using a primer with that combination and it might fire. ....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rolngthun Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: ??????? [ QUOTE ] Try using a primer with that combination and it might fire. ....popgun [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't that be something.? Powder goes in first, THEN the bullet. If you are using a primer, which one? Make sure the hole in the breech is open, should be able to see light through it. How long has this charge been in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Re: ??????? Pull the breechplug and empty the bore. Dry patch the bore and make sure there is grease on the breechplug, then reinstall it. Reload, prime and shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holt525 Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: ??????? durrr i noe that u have 2 use a primer i killed a 7pointer with it last year but it seems it dosent want to fire now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Re: ??????? I would empty the gun, clean the nipple and breach plug, pop a few caps in it, swab it out then reload and try firing again. It sounds to me like there is a problem somewhere between the nipple and the barrell, or possibly some moisture issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holt525 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? would it help not to clean it @ all ................if i would clean it use veary little oil???????//// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? You have to clean the gun thoroughly. Pyrodex, T7, black powder, etc absorb moisture and cause corrosion (rust) very quickly. So it has to be done. After cleaning, the metal is vunerable to corrosion just from the surroundings. It has to be treated with a rust preventative. You can use whatever you please, but prior to loading the gun, you should dry patch the bore to remove excess protectant and fire a few primers or caps, to make sure the fluids are not in the nipple or breechplug. Dry patch again and reload the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holt525 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? ok .......... would it help to fire 50 granins out of the gun @ the houe before heading out in the feild with no bullet then loading would that help???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? No, you need something to hold the powder in. If you shoot just soem powder, you are gunking up the barrel. Plus its alarming everything and everyone that you are going hunting. Say you are successful or missed a deer and plan to hunt the next day, I go through the cleaning procedure, swab the bore with Slip 2000 protectant, dry patch afterwards, fire 2 primers (no powder), dry patch, reload for the next day's hunt. If I don't shoot that day, the gun stays loaded. Muzzleloaders are not considered to be loaded unless they have a primer or cap installed. You can keep the charge in the bore (its not considered to be loaded). I keep mine loaded until I shoot it, it rains, or 2 weeks go by. After that I clean and reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? Oil??? The only oil that goes in my ML is a drop on the nipple when I'm screwing it in. The last thing I do when doing a good cleaning is pour about 2qts of boiling water down the barrel. I do pour all the water out. The barrel is hot enough to evaporate any water left in it. When it cools off enough to touch I put some bore butter on a swab and run it down the barrel, then after a few minutes run dri patches down the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow Hunter Derek Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Re: ??????? To me it sounds like one of two things or a combination of the two. Moisture. As others have said, moisture will keep it from firing. It can be as simple as if you had fired the gun once in the cold and then reloaded, you can have moisture in the gun. A bi-product of any combustion process is water vapor. On a very cold day, that water vapor will almost immediately condense, some of it in your barrel, some in the breach plug, and some even on your in-line's bolt (I had the bolt in my gun actually freeze last week because I had fired a round at the range, loaded another charge for hunting, and left it sit until I hunted. The bolt froze in the open position. Once the gun warmed up in the house, it was fine.) All that moisture will soak the powder and then you are done. The other thing is there could be an obstruction in the nipple. Buy a nipple pick or use another very fine wire and run it through the small hole in the nipple. Fouling builds up in there and can keep the spark from reaching the powder. I suggest tearing the gun completely down and cleaning everything with hot soapy water. Dry everything completely and re-assemble the gun. Do not use oil. If you use anything, put some breech plug grease on the plug and nipple threads is all. Maybe a thin coat of bore butter down the barrel, but even that is not needed in my opinion. When it is together, follow what others have said in running a couple caps off and then dry swabbing the barrel. Load it up and hunt with it. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holt525 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Re: ??????? ok ill try with no oil and ill tell you how it gos?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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