Guest finsnfur Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I have backed Texas all year in 'discussions' about which team is the best, USC or TEXAS. I enjoyed the heck out of that game last night too. So i was expecting to see some Texans on here braggin' up their team and what do I find - NOTHING. Let's here it Texans. We are all used to your bragging about everything else. You deserve to brag now!!! Let me hear it!!!!! Hook'em Horns!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest finsnfur Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! guess i should look in the SPORTS section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! I only watched the last 2 minutes but that was a good 2 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007hunter Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! It was a good game for sure!!! I really didn't care who won, I just wanted a good game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! i didn't really care who won either...but IMO USC is still the better team....Vince young beat them on his own..there was no "TEAM" involved there...he is an amazing QB and when he gets the the NFL he is going to make people say...micheal vick who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Mich, your nuts if you say he won it alone. Vince is nothing without his defense or offensive line. He is a tremendous athlete, but he can't do it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest finsnfur Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! TEXAS has team. a good team. VY did not take over until the 2nd half. The rest of the team did the work until they/he decided to take over the game. He stepped it up into "high" gear. USC stuck with him too. Lienhart(sp) made some awesome throws, if he had more veteran receivers, i think it would have turned out differently. but it is a team sport. And a team is what they have. VY is amazing, but he had a lot of help. it was a great game. i have it on my DVR and will watch it again this weekend with my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] Mich, your nuts if you say he won it alone. Vince is nothing without his defense or offensive line. He is a tremendous athlete, but he can't do it alone. [/ QUOTE ] This game...the defense or offensive line didn't show up....the defense had a good season but THIS game..vince young did it all on his own....leinart could pass all day on the secondary and white had 3 rushing TD's...and as for the offensive line...they didn't give vince young time to throw the ball...every pass play the defense was in on him and he made great plays with his feet....he scored 3 of there 4 TD's and the only on he didn't score...he pitched to another guy who ran the other ten yards....AND...he had 84% of texas total offense....so if Texas won that gamne as a team...i sure as heck didn't see it...Vince young is the only one who earned that win last night....take VInce young off that team they are just another average (if that) football team....if he leaves for the NFL they are going to be lucky to finish in the top 15 or even the top 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Did you watch any of the first half Mich?? Even the commentators were talking about how good the protection was for Vince. Obviously, USC made some changes at halftime and made it rougher on Vince. But I don't care how good of a quarterback you are.......you don't rush and throw for over 400 yards without your offensive line "showing up". It just don't happen. Don't give Vince all the credit. Texas won that game. You put Vince on the field by himself against the USC defense and see how much he gets done. Heck, you put him behind Oklahoma State's offensive line and he'd be lucky to rush for 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest finsnfur Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Try putting VY behind the Illinois O-line and have the IL defense play too. Illinois still would not have scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] Did you watch any of the first half Mich?? Even the commentators were talking about how good the protection was for Vince. Obviously, USC made some changes at halftime and made it rougher on Vince. But I don't care how good of a quarterback you are.......you don't rush and throw for over 400 yards without your offensive line "showing up". It just don't happen. Don't give Vince all the credit. Texas won that game. You put Vince on the field by himself against the USC defense and see how much he gets done. Heck, you put him behind Oklahoma State's offensive line and he'd be lucky to rush for 100. [/ QUOTE ] thats my opinion...say what you want to say but you're not going to change it....when your QB is your leading rusher..not only in this game...but on the year...your O-line has problems...he's not micheal vick...vick checks off of one reciever and runs the ball...vince young actually looks to throw first...but last night he didn't have the chance to check off of recievers the pocket collapsed to fast for him to do that and he made plays with his feet....yeah he made passes...but most of them were quick tosses 10-15 yards down filed...and of course if you put one guy out there against 11 others he's not going to win....but you out 10 more out there with him and then everyone has to be covered...learn the game then maybe you wouldn't make retarded statments like this...no matter how great one player is on the team you still have to cover everyone else...or else that one guy is going to make the player they left open look like a superstar....he broke tackles...threw (when he had a chance to) and made alot of the plays on his own.....if the rest of the team, was anygood last night he wouldn't have scored all but one of there TD's...averaged 10 yards per carry...half the time the O-line was back at the line of scrimmage when he was 5 or 10 yards down field breaking tackles..and even if they had reviewed that one TD where he pitched the ball he, more than likely would have score on his own anyways...so like i said...VINCE YOUNG 2006 NATIONAL CHAMPION...the rest of the team was just along for the ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] learn the game then maybe you wouldn't make retarded statments like this [/ QUOTE ] All right, I'm trying to be civil here, but its dang hard. If that statement was directed to me which I believe it was since you're quoting me, you need to step back and think about what your typing, son. Never once in my post did I demean you or your opinions in any form or fashion. And its taking all I've got not to resort to the same tactics. You believe what you want. But in my OPINION, football is a team effort. Sure Vince was the whole offense, but he wasn't the offensive line and he didn't catch his own passes. That's it. I'm through. If you want to continue this I'd be happy to via PM's or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! that was directed towards your comment not you poersonally....its called a friendly debate...if you can't handle it then sorry....but i was just stating MY opinions again and why I think it was NOT a team effort by texas....so with that said i am through also and apoligize if my comment about you statment hurt your feelings but like i said they were towards your comment not you personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHuntinPastor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! what a game!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! I would like to go on the record as saying......"I told you so" to all the folks that didn't believe that Texas was the best team. Team sports are just that.......team sports. Young could not have done it alone, and USC was/is NOT the better team. They had 2, count them, 2 Heisman winners in their back field and they still got beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! i would like to apologize one more time (without making it sound sarcastic) to you MCH for my comment...if i have offended you i am sorry...i have been here long enough to know better than to say something publicy like that and regret saying and for causing such a rucus (sp) the mods try their best to keep this place clean and free of bickering and occasionally someone has a brain fart during a friendly debate and takes gets out of hand...in this case it was my own stupidity and i again would like to say i'm sorry to all of you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Takes a big man to apologize like that........it's appreciated.......but I wouldn't expect anything less from a longtime member here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] why I think it was NOT a team effort by texas.... [/ QUOTE ] There was no need for Texas to change any game plan. As long as USC couldn't stop him why would Mack want to change any of the call playing. Heck--ZeroU (OU) shut down Vince's running game and he beat them thru the air. If my memory serves me correct I think Vince also beat Ohio State with a late 4th quarter pass. The offense took what USC's defense gave them and that was allowing Vince to run all over the field. and BTW--Vince had nothing to do with the Texas' defense stopping USC on that late 4th and 2. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] ...learn the game then maybe you wouldn't make retarded statments like this... [/ QUOTE ] oh and BTW---the above statement was uncalled for IMO. "Friendly Debates" don't include statements like the one above. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! [ QUOTE ] and BTW--Vince had nothing to do with the Texas' defense stopping USC on that late 4th and 2. [/ QUOTE ] I bet he was cheering.........maybe that did it, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironranger Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Wow, talk about being on the edge of your seat!! I was rooting for the underdog Texas team and they pulled it off. One of the greatest games I've ever seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! Anytime a defense holds a Heisman Trophy winning running back to 80 something yards rushing, it's a team effort. And I like Mack's defensive gameplan of "let's shut down Bush and make Leinart throw". If you make Leinart pass it enough times, he's going to throw some picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Re: NCAA Champs!!! No problem Mich. And I apologize for the "son" comment, also. We're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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