hoyt_hunter Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Our history teacher had us right a 1/2 page paper on this because no one knew anything about it, now that i have a better opinion, lets hear what u guys and gals think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide Thats tough to call. I think it's screwed up but at the same time, I am not old and in pain either. Reading your post, I try to picture myself as an old person slowly dying a painful death. I probably would want to end it rather than suffer. I think if it's a legit reason and all agree, then why not. I mean right now, I think it's messed up but when/if I reach that stage in life where I am suffering, I might think differently. I honestly don't think anyone can answer this honestly because I think you would have to be in that situation. JMO Good post and good debate material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] I honestly don't think anyone can answer this honestly because I think you would have to be in that situation. JMO [/ QUOTE ] There's my answer,,,couldn't have stated it any better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyt_hunter Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide IMO if the person is terminally ill, and doesnt have a good chance at living, it should be their call. If they don't want to be in the pain or don't want huge hospital bills for their families to worry about, it should be up to the person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robk Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide i would guess this is my take on it. unless i am the one making that decision whether i want to die or not there is know real honest answer you can make. it is a definate final decision to make and once you have someone who is administering the drugs to put you out. once your asleep you can change your mind and the other drugs administered it is all over. the one thing i told my wife was if i was in a coma and they said there is not true chance for survival then pull the plug. other than that i have no answer on assisted suicide rob k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide i've seen some terminal folks who would love to have had the option. if i ever get there, i guess i'd have to give it some thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide This is a really tough question. I know that the Bible says that it is a sin to commit suicide. But then, I have to wonder about that person's state of mind at that moment of time. I mean, you have to be crazy to kill yourself, right? A person in excruciating pain is NOT going to be thinking straight. If my mother or father were in excruciating pain and were terminally ill, and asked me to help them die...I wouldn't know what to do. Because once again...I am not in that situation yet. And I hope I NEVER will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide Since you asked, here's my two cents. If you have a pet who is dying from a painful and/or debilitating condition, everyone says the "right" thing to do is to put them to sleep. They aren't suffering any longer and can rest in peace. I feel it's the same way with people. Who am I to tell the person who is suffering with incurable cancer that they should tough it out until their body finally gives up? If it's the humane and right thing to do for a pet, why is it wrong for a human? It should be up to the person in question what they want to do with their life and if they want to terminate it and end the suffering then they should be allowed to do so with dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide Well said Hunting In Main. I totally agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide Well, HuntinginMaine................I personally don't think I could do it. I mean, your talking to someone who would NOT be able to shoot my pet. That would have to be done by someone else. So..................if someone were to ask me to help them die.......I'd have to find them someone else to do it probably. So is the question---should it be legal??? Um, there would have to be a LOT of conditions to that. I would think that first, the person would HAVE to be terminally ill and it would have to be done by a DOCTOR. Otherwise, you would have a LOT of people saying: " Well, I killed him cause he said he wanted to die" You know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide You make a good point Andrea. I am not saying that I would be able to do it myself. And I do think that the person should be determined terminally ill by a doctor before it would even be considered, and that it should be done by a doctor. If I am laying there suffering, and there is no hope what so ever, I would not want to be a burden to or put my family through the agony of haveing to watch me suffer. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide If a person wants to off themselves, that's one thing. But having a doctor or someone else do it for them is totally different. It opens up way too many questions about what that person's true intentions are. Example: I have an aging parent that I either can't care for or I don't want to spend the money on them for a nursing home. They get sick, can't really communicate, and I decide to tell the doctor to euthanize them. But how can the doctor be sure that's what they realy want. And how can we be sure that recovery to some degree isn't a possibilty? There's just too much room for fraud/error/malice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] If a person wants to off themselves, that's one thing. But having a doctor or someone else do it for them is totally different. It opens up way too many questions about what that person's true intentions are. Example: I have an aging parent that I either can't care for or I don't want to spend the money on them for a nursing home. They get sick, can't really communicate, and I decide to tell the doctor to euthanize them. But how can the doctor be sure that's what they realy want. And how can we be sure that recovery to some degree isn't a possibilty? There's just too much room for fraud/error/malice. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, that's exactly how I feel about the whole issue too. Suicide is an ugly enough issue, without giving someone else the right to help you. It's opens the door to all kinds of evil...IMO. If I want to die that bad, I'll just have to hope God takes me quick. I'd hate to have my blood on someone elses hands...permission or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Goose Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide try to hurt my family and i'll show you the meaning of assisted suicide . And i am sure many feel that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide assisted suicide already exists in america. in oregon, the doctor is allowed to prescribe an overdose of a drug. if you take the "medicine" that he prescribed, you will die. legal suicide. just was o.k.'d by the us supreme court last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] assisted suicide already exists in america. in oregon, the doctor is allowed to prescribe an overdose of a drug. if you take the "medicine" that he prescribed, you will die. legal suicide. just was o.k.'d by the us supreme court last week. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. One more example of judicial abuse by a runaway court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide I feel Jack Kevorkian was a great humanitarian. I view quality of life means more than just being alive. Watch the movie Million Dollar Baby sometime and see how you feel. I have no problems with assisted suicide. I totally agree with HuntingInMain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfrompa Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] I feel Jack Kevorkian was a great humanitarian. I view quality of life means more than just being alive. Watch the movie Million Dollar Baby sometime and see how you feel. I have no problems with assisted suicide. I totally agree with HuntingInMain. [/ QUOTE ] God's word says in Ecc 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;and in Ecc 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time? and one more time, Ecc 9:4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. All this points to God being the one that choses life and death. I know that and deep down so does everyone. Jack Kevorkian is a sinner like you and me he has taking it a step further by causing those that Jesus died for to commit sin. Luk 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offenses will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! Luk 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone, were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. I dont judge him I also am a sinner, but I have seen enough in God's word to tell me that it's not up to me when i or anyone else dies. That time is appointed to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] God's word says... [/ QUOTE ] Again, if that fits your beliefs. The bible does not fit my beliefs. If heaven is such a wonderful place for the 'soul' to spend eternity, why is death so bad? Sounds like more hogwash to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfrompa Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: Assisted Suicide [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] God's word says... [/ QUOTE ] Again, if that fits your beliefs. The bible does not fit my beliefs. If heaven is such a wonderful place for the 'soul' to spend eternity, why is death so bad? Sounds like more hogwash to me. [/ QUOTE ] Being with our creator is a wonderful place to be. I'm just saying that it is not up to us when we die. That is unless you choose to take that into your own hands. No matter what anyone says when faced with death God will come up in the final thoughts. I pray that you don't wait that long. And that is my right. I don't hate the sinner as i am and have been one of the best. I hate that the sin blinds and causes gehana to be a be filled with blind children of a loving father. Jesus Died so that no one need to be lost to gehana. He will forgive all who acknolege that they are sinners and ask him to forgive them and believe that he died for them. That may seem to simple and if asked i would tell you that the reason i sin is because i like it. But to understand that Gos loved me so much that he sent his son to die that I might have the chance to live according to his plan. Well that makes it harder to like sinning. and amazed that I can have everlasting life in Heven with my creator. As for me and my house we will follow the lord. I pray that you will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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