redbeard Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 I was surprised that the poll on NRA membership is going the way it is. 69% no, thusfar. That's ridiculous and dangerous, I might add. The NRA is our number one voice for gun rights in America and gun rights equate to hunting rights in my view. I should hope if you have a hunting friend not in the NRA, that you should encourage him to join. We can all spare 25 dollars for a years membership. We need the NRA regardless of some of their views and if you disagree with them. They are the most powerful lobby in Washington and we need to keep it that way and they need our funds. Please Join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Re: NRA What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Re: NRA the poll on teh realtree homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Re: NRA Are you a member of the National Rifle Association? Yes 39% No 61% Total Votes: 846 Pretty sad if you ask me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY911Bowhunter Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Re: NRA I am one of the "NO"s...... ....no real reason, just consider myself more of a bowhunter that a "gun nut" (horrible term). Perhaps I will look into joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Re: NRA I can't afford it these days. Too many bills. They also ticked me off and sent me an ugly blah green hat the last time, when I was supposed to get the good black one. When I called them up & asked if I could send it back to get the black one in the ad, they told me no. So, next time around, I told them no donation. False advertising sucks. If you want to be the voice of your members, don't leave them hanging on certain things. I wanted the black hat. It doesn't matter now anyways, I'm broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Re: NRA [ QUOTE ] I can't afford it these days. Too many bills. They also ticked me off and sent me an ugly blah green hat the last time, when I was supposed to get the good black one. When I called them up & asked if I could send it back to get the black one in the ad, they told me no. So, next time around, I told them no donation. False advertising sucks. If you want to be the voice of your members, don't leave them hanging on certain things. I wanted the black hat. It doesn't matter now anyways, I'm broke. [/ QUOTE ] I for one have threatened the NRA with a lawsuit if they solcited any more money from me. I'm a member - paid for a lifetime membership and I'll be ****'d if it wasn't one month before I got my first "if you support your rights, you'll send us money" letters from Wayne. We'll, I support my rights and I sent my money in the form of membership dues. If I knew today that I was going to get bombarded with solitions - I can honestly say I would put my money to another gun ownership cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Re: NRA I was a member for several years as were a number of my police friends. They lost a lot of us when they came out against the ban on cop-killer bullets (bullets designed to penetrate body armor). It's one thing to support the 2nd Amendment and another to support any firearm or ammunition that has no hunting, defense or protection value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY911Bowhunter Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Re: NRA Good to see you again Tom, hadn't heard from you in a while, was getting worried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Re: NRA NOT A MEMBER ANYMORE.I USED TO BE THOUGH.IT SEEMED LIKE A MONTH AFTER PAYING MY DUES THEY WANTED ME TO PAY AGAIN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.A FEW MONTHS LATER THEY WANTED MORE.I WILL PROBABLY REJOIN JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LOUDEST VOICE IN GUN RIGHTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Re: NRA [ QUOTE ] Oldsnarc,The reason the N.R.A. came out against the banning of the armour peircing bullets was because that ammo was never for sale to the public,it was just a ploy by the anti-gun people to get there foot in the door by banning other kinds of legitimate ammo(I could be mistaken on this but I think this is accurate) [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to the police officers who were killed by those bullets, but would likely have survived if they had not been on teh market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Re: NRA My father-in-law was a member. Nearly every time I was at their house he was getting phone calls or mail asking for money. That irritated me so much I never joined myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA Several years ago I got a few mailings, then seemed all of a sudden got a crap load of stuff in the mail asking for donations and somehow even got a few phone calls. Dont know how, but guess I must have gotten on a list or something, that was a turn off to me. I had started to join, but did not, due to the way they went about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA Just out of curiousity will some of the higher velocity rifle rounds you can buy at wally world not also pierce body armour or flack jackets? Just dont see the point of this ammo ban nonsense. A killer is a killer. The bullet is just a tool. There are no body armors for the head and a marksman with a rifle could easily take out cops with standard rifle ammo, so the suggestion of eliminating or banning an ammo could easily head in the wrong direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA [ QUOTE ] Just out of curiousity will some of the higher velocity rifle rounds you can buy at wally world not also pierce body armour or flack jackets? Just dont see the point of this ammo ban nonsense. A killer is a killer. The bullet is just a tool. There are no body armors for the head and a marksman with a rifle could easily take out cops with standard rifle ammo, so the suggestion of eliminating or banning an ammo could easily head in the wrong direction. [/ QUOTE ] Hirh velocity rifle rounds have a purpose in varmint shooting etc. The only purpose for armour piercing rounds is to pierce body armour and kill whoever was wearing it! There is no comparison there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA So a man who would chose to keep some "cop killer" bullets in his home for self protection in his pistol he keep in his nightstand next to his bed in case of a home invasion should not be allowed to do so? So you support banning those then what is next on the list, standard hollow point pistol bullets, they have no other purpose than to kill man right. Then what is next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA that man doesnt need cop killer bullets to protect himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA Yeah buddy, and one might say a man does not need a gun to protect himself either. Your missing my point. It is not the bullet. Those who would chose to take the life of another human being can do so by many means. If they are determined stopping the sale of a particular type of weapon or bullet in this case is not the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA I see and understand your point. That type of ammo has noly one purpose to kill those wearing body armour! That is not needed! How do you think that makes a cop feel knowing that they can be shot by somethin that they have no protection from. WHy would any cop support the NRA knowing this? THere is a diffenence between protecting the rights of Americans to own guns and protect themselves, and supporting teh sale of ammunition whose sole function is to kill those trying to uphold teh laws. (including the laws allowing you to own a gun) This is an argument that is obviously seen very differently by those whowork as ploice officers or have loved ones who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA I understand to what you are saying and personally would not have any use for those type of bullets, but giving in to the mentality of taking away seems to me to be a compromise that should not have to be made. As I said, a killer is a killer. The bullet is just a tool. A well placed bullet to the unprotected face with a fmj will kill you just as dead as a swc to the torso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA They agressively opposed teh ban. The purpose was to stop those wearing body armour from being killed and 99% of the time that is cops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA I just wonder of those being killed, who are wearing the protective body armor, how many are taking shots away from the armor. To the best of my knowledge there is not and has not ever been anything to protect the face area. Anyone who has had any practice can place a kill shot into the head and it does not have to be a "cop killer" bullet to do that. Banning or eliminating what some see as ammo and weapons that are not needed by the hunter or by a target shooter is just not the answer. Killers will still kill people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA You are right, but it is a lot harder if you have to shoot for teh head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA WHere are you coming from? i disagree with teh nra on one issue and suddenly i have one sided beliefs? Teh NRA fought it because they will fight any bill that will take away any waapon or ammunition. Personally i think they should ocassionally let one through but that is my opinion. I think you need to stop making assumptions about other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: NRA I'am a member of the NRA, NWTF, and Life member of NAHC...they all send junk mail! I just throw it in the trash. No big deal. On the other topic...First off, what is a "cop killer" bullet? Is it the black talon's everyone was making a stink about a few years ago? And as far as using any kind of ammo for protection...what if the person breaking into my home has a bullet proof vest? I don't understand...do you think the NRA (which is funded by me and others) would support anything that directly puts any law enforcement officer at risk? More than likely, there was another bill attached to the one you are refering to, or you are misinformed. We don't always agree with everything an org. does, however, for the most part...the NRA has done alot more good than bad for hunters and gun owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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