unioncountyslayer Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" Allowing Toyota's into the Cup doesn't bother me that much. What is so disgusting to me is how commercialized NASCAR has become. And how politically correct (changing the cup name from Winston to Nextel). Drivers are made out to be like Rock Stars now just because of a pretty face. All these young guys wouldn't have stood a chance 10 years ago at winning a race. All the rules and regs now are ridiculous. Can you imagine these guys in their teens and early twenties running 200 plus mph against the likes of Elliot, Earnhart, Rusty, and Gordon to metion a few. I'm sick of these restrictor-plate races. I've all but given up on a sport I use to love. I mean, they took away one of the most exiting short track races (The Rock) only because the seating capacity wasn't large enough to make everyone richer. NASCAR is becoming more and more like the other big sports in America, it's all about the money for everyone involved now. I really don't see the same passion for the sport from most, not all drivers. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" [ QUOTE ] MY fault for turning this thread from toyotas to car of tomorrow,, sorry guys........ [/ QUOTE ] That's okay. There are those for toyota and those that are wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" I don't think changing Winston to Nextel was motivated by wanting to be "P.C.". They did it because the old Nascar sponsor didn't want to sponsor them anymore. Of course Nascar is commercialized.........they all have to have sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unioncountyslayer Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" Yeah Vt, but what you may not know is that Winston was forced out by those in NASCAR trying to make it a national sport, not a redneck one. Believe me Winston wanted to continue, but NASCAR found someone (Nextel) that would pay way more money than Winston was willing to match. And by saying the sport is commercialized, and I did catch your sarcasm, I simply meant that NASCAR is more about the sponsors these days, rather than the racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" LOL, sarcasm, me? I'll agree with ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unioncountyslayer Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" HaHa, takes one to know one I guess Vt. Sarcasm is my middle name too! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" Maybe this article will ring some sense into this debate..... Pay particular attention to Jack Roush's comments.... Toyota drives into NASCAR Posted: January 25, 2006 Associated Press AP Motorsports Writer CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- It was not a little jarring several years ago when NASCAR fans began arriving at racetracks in Toyota Tundra trucks and other vehicles built by foreign manufacturers. Now, Japanese automaker Toyota is preparing to leave the parking lot and drive into that bastion of American auto racing and culture -- NASCAR's Nextel Cup series. Not since the mid-50s, when British-made Jaguars ran a handful of races in NASCAR's top series, has a foreign make competed in the Cup. From that time until 2000, when NASCAR allowed a Toyota-powered car in the now-defunct Goody's Dash series, even the suggestion that a car or engine built by the Japanese, the Germans or any other non-American could eventually race in NASCAR kindled everything from heated debate to physical confrontation among the parochial and rabid fans of stock car racing. Once Toyota ratcheted up to the Craftsman Truck Series in 2004, though, it became clear the next step was stock cars. It was announced earlier this week that a NASCAR edition of the Camry, the best-selling car in the U.S. in seven of the last eight years, will begin racing in 2007 in both of NASCAR's top stock car series -- Cup and Busch. "Like it or not, Toyota is a very important part of our economy today," said team owner Jack Roush, who fields five Fords in the Nextel Cup series and has won two of the last three championships. "We've got a lot of dealer investment dollars out there and we've got a lot of our population that works in Toyota plants around the country. So they have every right to be here. "I knew that it was inevitable and I know that they'll be very tough competitors. ... I welcome their being involved because I think they'll be good for the sport. I think they'll be great for the fans and the enthusiasm, I think, will sell more tickets to our race tracks." Jim Aust, vice president of Toyota Motorsports and president and CEO of Toyota Racing Development, USA, said he isn't surprised that the response so far has been generally unemotional. He points out that Toyota will be celebrating its 50th year doing business in the U.S. in 2007. "We're part of American business. The production Camrys are built in Georgetown, Ky., at one of our eight plants in the U.S.," Aust added. "And the company employs more than 140,000 Americans." Toyota will start with three teams and six cars -- the established two-car team owned by Bill Davis, the team owned by two-time Daytona 500 winner Michael Waltrip, which is moving up from Busch, and the all-new Team Red Bull. For Waltrip there was no hesitation about joining forces with Toyota. "I think most people will accept it and be OK with it, and I think it will also springboard the sport forward," Waltrip said. "You know, you've got another manufacturer that's going to come in, buy more ads on TV, supply more vehicles for cats to race on the track. "It will be one of those bumps in the sport, just like the TV package, just like Dodge's venture into the sport was. It will just add more interest, more competition and more intrigue. True fans will say, "This is cool. These guys are going to make more cars and we're really not going to know who is going to win now."' Aust acknowledged there were fears among the Toyota hierarchy of a backlash when the company moved into the truck series. It didn't happen. "We sold 2.2 units in the U.S. in 2005. I think the numbers are a big part of the acceptance, as far as NASCAR is concerned," he said. "We don't really anticipate there is going to be a great surprise. Certainly there are going to be people that have their own opinions here and there, but overall we're very happy with the reaction so far." Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" And if some of you were wondering what the Toyota body design will look like here she is..... I think it looks rather sharp.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" [ QUOTE ] And if some of you were wondering what the Toyota body design will look like here she is..... I think it looks rather sharp.. [/ QUOTE ] Sure, it's a Monte Carlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" Once the car of tomorrow gets going it will be the Nextel/IROC series! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllinoisArcher Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" [ QUOTE ] What's all the HOOPLA about ???? It's a car with four wheel and a motor.. ,,, to me the talent is behind the wheel and in the pits,, may the best man and crew win... To me it's all about being competative,,,,, [/ QUOTE ] EXACTLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" [ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And if some of you were wondering what the Toyota body design will look like here she is..... I think it looks rather sharp.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure, it's a Monte Carlo. [/ QUOTE ] With headlight and grille stickers that try to make it look like a Toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And if some of you were wondering what the Toyota body design will look like here she is..... I think it looks rather sharp.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure, it's a Monte Carlo. [/ QUOTE ] With headlight and grille stickers that try to make it look like a Toyota. [/ QUOTE ] Dang,, that's exactly what I was thinking but din't dare to say for sure.... I bet if we flip that car over we'll find a DEI or a Hendrick chassis as well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: NASCAR is ruining \"NASCAR\" Hhmmm,, this thread went dead quick..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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