johnf Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Could a gunsmith cut down the barrel and make or modify the stock of a handi rifle to make it into a hand gun? Would this be a really stupid idea? If so, what would be a good caliber to do that on? It seems like that would be a low cost alternative to contender or Encore hand gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea After paying the gunsmith, and getting the new stock, I don't see how it could possibly be that much cheaper than the T/C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea I'm thinking this would probably be illegal. I was talking with the guy that owns my gunshop this past weekend, and he told me that technically it is illegal to even take an /encore that was purchased as a rifle, and make it into a hangun, He told me that to be a lega lhandgun, it needs to be registered as a handgun when it is bought. Scroll down a bit in this thread on Mike Bellm's forum, and there is a scan of a letter from the BATF addressing this.... Bellm's Forum you have to register to read on his forum now I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea You have to go through a lot of red tape to get it done. You have to get the blessing from the BATF. Its not easy, cheap, or quick to get authorization. Basically, its no where near worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea So, what makes a handgun a "legal handgun" barrel lenght, stock/grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea I believe what makes a legal handgun, is having it registered as such when it is purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea [ QUOTE ] So, what makes a handgun a "legal handgun" barrel lenght, stock/grip? [/ QUOTE ] How its documented. There are minimums for rifles and shotguns. Any weapon not meeting this criteria is considered a NFA (National Firearm Act) weapon: A short barreled rifle is a rifle (which is defined as a shoulder fired, rifled bore firearm) with a barrel length of less than 16", or an overall length of less than 26", or any weapon made from a rifle falling into the same length parameters (like a pistol made from a rifle). In measuring barrel length you do it from the closed breech to the muzzle. To measure overall length do so along, "the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore." On a folding stock weapon you measure with the stock extended, provided the stock is not readily detachable, and the weapon is meant to be fired from the shoulder. A short barreled shotgun is any shotgun (which is defined as a shoulder fired, smooth bore firearm) with a barrel of less than 18" or an overall length of less than 26", or any weapon made from a shotgun falling into the same length parameters. You can make any NFA weapon, except for machine guns by filing ATF Form 1, "Application to Make and Register a Firearm", and paying the $200 making tax, which applies to all of these weapons, including AOW's. You may not make the proposed weapon until the Form 1 is returned to you approved. The law enforcement certification, photos and fingerprints also apply to Form 1's, and in fact to any transfer to an individual. Additionally the manufacturer of any NFA weapon, including an individual making one on a Form 1 must mark the receiver of the weapon with the maker's name and city and state. NFA Branch can grant exemptions from this for DD's. All types of corporations, including corporate type 01 FFL holders, need not do the certification, photo and fingerprint requirements. Any of the forms listed, and the fingerprint cards, are available for free from ATF, either in Washington, D.C. or your local office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea So really the only thing I could legally do is cut the barrel and stock down to make the gun 26" long firing from the shoulder without some major paperwork and cash.(considering the gun is only $200 doubling that to make it a pistol seems like a lot) A 26" rifle would probibly be great for a dwarf though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: Crazy H&R Idea [ QUOTE ] So really the only thing I could legally do is cut the barrel and stock down to make the gun 26" long firing from the shoulder without some major paperwork and cash. [/ QUOTE ] As long as the barrel is at least 16" you can shorten the stock until the gun is 26" long and its still shoulder fired. Cabelas has a Collapsable stock by Advanced Technology (ATI) for the Handi Rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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