stevebeilgard Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston i don't know. i smell fish here. yet, he may have only been hunting where the outfitter put him. that reasonable. maybe his guide made the mistake. if he is truely a christian, maybe we should be also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston the letter the story the video the pictures the info on his website. Something does not add up at all????!!!! looks really bad for Jimmy H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston All I know is, I saw the pic of the deer from his website, and I watched the video, and if that fence was 10 yards from his stand then I weigh 175 pounds, not to mention the fact that there was a fence to his left and a fence to his right, but the fenced in area was 1200 yards or acres or whatever. There must have been a couple thousand deer in there with all the movement going around. I don't buy it, Jimmy is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubWSR Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I think everybody needs to chill out on this deal. I too have grown up watching jimmy and have met him and spoken with him multiple times every year since i was about 4 years old. I have never considered him a profesional hunter by any means, professional fisherman.... now that is another story. This man has been one of the biggest icons in the fishing industry for a long time. From BASS, his tv show, helping children, books, bringing terminator spinerbaits to the top of the industry, and who knows how many outdoor shows and expo's he has attended and talked to millions of people(especially children), this man has been a top notch pro. I have sat back and kept my mouth shut through all of this, but to see all these people who most of them have never met the man once in their life try to completely end his career makes me feel sick. If you dont respect him as a hunter, then dont. He is not the only person to ever hunt a high fence ranch, and wont be the last. If you dont want to use products whos brand he is sponsored by, then dont. But to try and completely end this man's career over something that none of us even know the real truth about(im not sure even he does but i absolutely believe he is telling the truth about the deer not being drugged cause i have had personal conversations with him about his belief in drugs) is insane. I cant tell you the number of people i have heard complain about having to fish behind him in the back of the boat because he is such a good fisherman. This man is a professional fisherman and deserves every bit of tv time he gets and sponsors he has ever had through his fishing career. To see his career ended over this would be unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston In reading as much of the information as I can on the subject, I am really astonished. Since I became a member of this forum, I have read everything from people tresspassing and being caught on camera and people faking photos of animals to anti's trying to pass laws against hunting. In every one of those posts, I read where someone was ticked off as heck about the actions that were done against them and us as a whole. I read how they all but destroyed our heritage and our freedoms as Hunters and Fishermen. All of these were justified to an extent. But what happens when we are faced with one of the biggest blemishes to come our way in a long time? We have people on here with all of the evidence you can have without actually being there and they are still in denial about what has happened. Hey, if you just want heroes, look to Iraq and find a soldier. I am sure you fished with him on Saturday mornings and I am sure he has done a lot more good than bad. But he has hurt something near and dear to all of us that take pride in the fact that little or small, what we fished for, hunted for and worked so hard for paid off in not just a provided meal but in memories and times spent with others as well. I don't respect him anymore than I respect an anti-hunter that spreads ignorance throughout the world. He has made all of us look bad whether we like him or not. He has damaged our image that all of us have worked hard to preserve. Whatever anyone wants to do as far as how they look at him now is obviously their decision. And just like you, CDubWSR, I too have an oppinion and I will express it. What does his view on drugs have to do with whether or not he will shoot a drugged deer? That is one of the silliest reasons I have read so far, other than what seems like support for him just because he was a childhood hero for fishing. Heros mess up and this guy is no different. I think he should be banned from any licenses have his shows yanked from the air. Remember folks, he did this out of love of making more money and getting you to buy his products. If he's so innocent, then why does he admit to it in his letter there Dub? I know that if I had done something like that the excuses wouldn't fly in here and they wouldn't fly with the Conservation Officer either. That's the key right there though. It shoudn't be OK to do things like this and we should all stand up to keep him from tarnishing our image more than he already has. It's like this forum. If we don't police ourselves then how are we going to react when others have to do it for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston [ QUOTE ] http://real-hunters.com/bellar-trial-video.cfm Here is a link to the video. My problem here is after reading his letter, and viewing the video again, he states he was within 10yds of A fence. From viewing the tape again, looks to me like he was in a corner, as he has a fence to his left rear, and to his right. If this is the case, and the pen was in fact 1200 acres, why didn't the deer move out of the area, instead of repeatedly going towards the fence. I dunno, something just seems fishy here. (No pun intended) [/ QUOTE ] Yes you can see the deer walk into two sides of the fence in an effort to escape! I too watched him for years on TV. Weather he is a christian or not he had to know something was wrong! Following a man I looked up all these years and now seeing this! He is just trying to cover his BUTT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMAworks4me Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston IMO he is just covering up what he knew he was doing. But I was not there so we will probably never really know what the TRUE story is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston Copied from Jimmyhouston.com from his wife: I have been very disappointed in the e-mails and chat room attacks all of which has turned into a vicious campaign to destroy not just Jimmy's integrity and reputation, but to actually try to destroy a life-long career. This has been a campaign that seems to have been launched by a group called the National Wildlife Federation". Who is the National Wildlife Federation; what is their agenda, and what do they actually believe? Does anyone know? In "the video", the man wearing the camo shirt introduces himself as a part of the National Wildlife Federation and having produced the video to inform you the hunter.... He then goes through the various clips-showing Jimmy Houston in the first hunting clip. It shows Jimmy in a stand...shows some deer coming by..shows Jimmy holding a bow, however it does not show him actually killing a deer. The National Wildlife Federation representative then goes on to show other clips involving other hunters in various hunting situations; he not only does not identify these other hunters, but has put the sequence together in a manner, I believe, to implicate that some of these other hunters are actually Jimmy..I can assure you they are not. From the content of many of these posts, I am convinced that many of you have gotten that impression - if not, then you have chosen to not just accuse but deliver the "gospel" as such. Who are the people in the other video clips? Who are the other hunters? Does anyone know or care? "No, let's destroy Jimmy and Mothwing Camo!" seems to be the outcry by the barrage of posts that have appeared. It seems interesting to me that there have been many posts indicating that the writer of the post would not "buy anymore Mothwing Camo"; would not buy any more camera cases with Mothwing Camo on them; that "they have a whole wardrobe of Mothwing camo, but would not be buying anymore". Guess what??? Mothwing Camo has actually not been available for consumer purchase until just very recently and I mean very recently, so I am comfortable in saying that these are all false statements in an attempt to hurt not only Jimmy but Mothwing Camo. Why? Because Jimmy hunted at Bellars? I don't think so. In fact if you will look closely at the camo that Jimmy is wearing on "the video", you will find that he is not even wearing Mothwing..It wasn't available when the video was shot in 2003. Should you boycott the company that made the camo that he is wearing on the video? Does it not seem interesting to you that the other hunters on the video and even those that were listed as having hunted there are not identified? Many if not most of those were much "bigger fish" than Jimmy. There was even another company associated hunting show that was there when Jimmy arrived at Bellars in 2003. Has anyone attacked them? Jimmy was invited to hunt at Bellars. He actually squeezed the hunt into a very busy schedule. It was very cold and if memory serves me correctly before the day was over a winter storm moved in and they drove home in a snowstorm. He actually hunted all morning from daylight until after 11 in very cold temperatures..and it was not in a 3-6 acre pen. The video that was shot that day on that hunt has never aired until the National Wildlife Federation has chosen to use it. I believe that there have been some posts that indicate that this show was aired..wrong. I can go on and on but I won't. It would be impossible to deliver an explanation or an apology good enough to satisfy most of you because you don't want to hear the truth. To those of you whose lives have been adversely affected by knowing that Jimmy hunted at Bellars three years ago..I apologize. Please know that when you attack Jimmy in a manner attempting to ruin his career, you are also attempting to destroy me, our family and our employees. Jimmy has spent a lifetime not just making a living but encouraging others to hunt and fish and exalting those sports. He has spent many days taking ill children fishing from "Make a Wish"; "Hunt of a Lifetime"; "Brass ring Society"; and other similar organizations. Some of these wishes have even been fulfilled during tournament practices. He receives may calls asking him to call a dying or seriously ill friend; he recently flew to New Orleans to join a group from New York that was rebuilding a fishing deck for a five year old cancer patient. He did not actually do the rebuilding - it was his privilege to spend the day with the little boy. This story was actually covered by CNN, but I sure haven't seen anything posted on here about that. No that is a good deed. He left home around 4am and got back well after midnight...is this the evil person that deer hunted at Bellars and is now being persecuted for it on your posts? http://www.newyorksaysthankyou.org/video/nystk_slidell02.wmv http://www.newyorksaysthankyou.org/video/nystk_slidell01.wmv For almost 20 years Jimmy has worked his schedule around activities of the Fellowship of Christian Anglers. The annual Kids Day event held on Lake Tenkiller; the FOCAS tournament; and the Christmas party held for Cherokee County Nursing Center are all events that are built into his schedule. You can bet your boots that over 80 old people at the nursing home in Tahlequah could care less that he hunted at Bellars. They know that he takes the time to visit them every Christmas. He speaks at many churches and children's camps...many of those added to an already crowded schedule, making his schedule, without a doubt the busiest for a pro fisherman. He has emceed the St Judes tournament in Louisana for the last 12-13 years. During that time that tournament has raised $2,861,000 which has been personally delivered to St Judes by the tournament founder Charles Williams. Jimmy made a lifetime commitment to Charles to help him with that tournament in honor of Charles' daughter, Heather, who died of leukemia. Again, many times, this is squeezed into a tight schedule, but he will fly from anywhere to be there. Just this past year, Jimmy also hosted the residents of a local Veterans Home for a day of fishing at his personal home and lake. He not only provided the tackle and bait, but baited hooks and fished with these veterans all day. I really don't think they care that he hunted at Bellars either..they just know that he has opened his heart and arms to them and allowed them to enjoy catching a tub full of catfish. I could go on but I know that this is not the stuff on which scandals and smear campaigns thrive. While most of you are determined to destroy or at best taint Jimmy's reputation and image, I am comforted by the fact that God is granting Jimmy the grace and strength to endure the maliciousness that has been thrust upon him in a manner that only God can be providing. His "One Year Bible" in the NLT version provided us proof that God is walking him through this fire. Please allow me the courtesy of reading the following. He is actually a few days ahead in his reading..I think he is actually where God planned for him to be. The Psalms for 2/17 is from Psalms 35:17-38 and reads as follows: 17. How long O Lord, will you look on and do nothing? Rescue me from these fierce attacks. Protect my life from these lions 18. .19. Don't let my treacherous enemies rejoice over my defeat. Don't let those who hate me gloat over my sorrow. 20. They don't talk of peace. They plot against innocent people who mind their own business. 21. They shout aha aha! With our own eyes, we saw him do it. 22. O Lord, you know all about this. Do not stay silent. Do not abandon me now, O Lord. 23. Wake up. Rise to my defense! Take up my case, my God and my Lord. 24. Declare me not guilty! O Lord, my God, for you give justice. Don't let my enemies laugh about me in my troubles. 25. Don't let them say, "Look, we got what we wanted! Now we will eat him alive." 26. May those who rejoice at my troubles be humiliated and disgraced. May those who triumph over me be covered with shame and dishonor. 27. But give great joy to those who come to my defense. Let them continually say "Great is the Lord, who delights in blessing his servant with peace." 28. Then I will proclaim your justice and I will praise you all day long. I take comfort in knowing that God will prevail no matter how harsh the written word. I know one thing the National Wildlife Federation has succeeded in doing - that is pitting hunters against hunters. Was this their original intent? Is this not the MO of most of the anti-hunting groups? In the process of making their stand on high fence operations known they have used Jimmy Houston as the bait and bullet. I have just discovered that the NWF is indeed a group that is opposed to HUNTING. Don't think for a minute that their desire is not to inform - it is to destroy hunting period. To our sponsors who have been contacted and/or mentioned, we want to say how very sorry we are that this has turned into a Jimmy Houston witchhunt. We have always considered our association with our sponsors a great privilege and honor and will always represent them with dignity. We consider our sponsors to be the best in the industry and have already been assured by some of them that they have not lost their faith and trust in us and will ride out the storm with us. To you, we say a heartfelt thank you. To those have posed in our defense and/or support, I say thank you from the bottom of my heart. You cannot imagine how much those have meant. It is like finding a life raft in a stormy sea. To those who have called with words of encouragement...thank you. It is difficult to defend oneself from nameless and faceless attackers. The only one identified in this battle is Jimmy. To those who are having fun being involved in this and wallowing in this mud bath, may you never have to endure such persecution. Again, if you have been eternally affected by Jimmy having hunted at Bellars three years ago, I am sorry. If you are just enjoying the hunt and chase, then I would respectfully ask that you let it go..enough is enough. Lets all use this energy, time and space doing something that will bless or build up someone or something. I must mention that we have just been contacted by a church where Jimmy is scheduled to speak wanting to know if they need to provide extra security for him in light of the attacks posted on the internet...how sad that this has reached this point. May God have mercy on those responsible. Thank you for your time and patience in reading this long post. I am disappointed and hurt, but not bitter or broken by all of this. My prayer and belief is that God will prevail and provide a result that will glorify Him. Respectfully submitted, Chris Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I have tried to keep an open mind about this, and see this thru Jimmy's side, and the video that I watched, but not the Narrator. If this area was 50 acres, why was the stand in what apperas to be a corner? Why are the deer repeatedly running into the fence trying to get away, and not "away" from the area. I for one never thought that this deer was drugged. Those deer appear to be in a panic to get away from "something" I just don't know what. As far as both his and his wifes letter, sounds to me like they are trying to turn the attention from Jimmy to everyone else, seems their attitude "he did it and got away with it, why can't I" I USED to have alot of respect for JH, but after SEEING the video, reading both his and his wifes letter, not anymore. he even states that the photograph was used on "some" websites. When actually it was on his, in the gallery. I don't know, but I have tried to give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt, but at this point, I just can't. He made his bed, now I will let him sleep in it. Maybe one day I can meet him, and if so, I may just ask him about this, and see what his response is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeck Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I personally know of a number of well respected pro. hunters, that have hunted in fences with deer run past them. Believe me fellows this happens far more than you know. The presure of shooting bigger bucks, filling videos, some times gets the best of these guys and they use whatever meens to accoplish there goal. I'm not saying all do it, I'm just saying I know of 3 that will, and have. I will not disclose there names, for I feel this is something they have to live with. But I won't support them or the organazations they represent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I read both of these open letters on here, is it any wonder that the news page is down on Jimmy's web site now, but the e-mail link is still up, so I sent him another one. He may be a nice guy, he may have done wonderful things with all the money he has made through hunting and fishing; but that doesn't mean that he can hunt on a ranch where there are drugged deer who are in a narrow area that they bang into fences. What I don't like is his wife saying there is a personal vendetta against Jimmy when there were "bigger fish" at the ranch at the same time. If that were the case, what makes Jimmy so special? I don't buy it, he was clearly in a narrow, high fenced area, and the buck in question was featured on his website with him gloating over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston [ QUOTE ] I believe, to implicate that some of these other hunters are actually Jimmy..I can assure you they are not. [/ QUOTE ] Those that hunt and fish know who Jimmy Houston is! I know that all them people shown in the video were NOT jimmy! This is just more BS to cover up! [ QUOTE ] Jimmy was invited to hunt at Bellars. He actually squeezed the hunt into a very busy schedule. It was very cold and if memory serves me correctly before the day was over a winter storm moved in and they drove home in a snowstorm. [/ QUOTE ] Again! No better way to make a QUICK video than to do it in a "CANNED HUNT!" If this was the case, then he should have stayed home, for reasons of bad weather as well! [ QUOTE ] Does it not seem interesting to you that the other hunters on the video and even those that were listed as having hunted there are not identified? [/ QUOTE ] Well if you know who these people are then lets have there names!!! [ QUOTE ] For almost 20 years Jimmy has worked his schedule around activities of the Fellowship of Christian Anglers. The annual Kids Day event held on Lake Tenkiller; the FOCAS tournament; and the Christmas party held for Cherokee County Nursing Center are all events that are built into his schedule. You can bet your boots that over 80 old people at the nursing home in Tahlequah could care less that he hunted at Bellars. They know that he takes the time to visit them every Christmas. He speaks at many churches and children's camps...many of those added to an already crowded schedule, making his schedule, without a doubt the busiest for a pro fisherman. He has emceed the St Judes tournament in Louisana for the last 12-13 years. During that time that tournament has raised $2,861,000 which has been personally delivered to St Judes by the tournament founder Charles Williams. Jimmy made a lifetime commitment to Charles to help him with that tournament in honor of Charles' daughter, Heather, who died of leukemia. Again, many times, this is squeezed into a tight schedule, but he will fly from anywhere to be there. Just this past year, Jimmy also hosted the residents of a local Veterans Home for a day of fishing at his personal home and lake. He not only provided the tackle and bait, but baited hooks and fished with these veterans all day. I really don't think they care that he hunted at Bellars either..they just know that he has opened his heart and arms to them and allowed them to enjoy catching a tub full of catfish. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah its great he has done all these things, but your just trying to evade from the problem he started! [ QUOTE ] The only one identified in this battle is Jimmy. [/ QUOTE ] Thats because he is the big TV star of hunting and fishing world!!! Duh!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston So does this letter mean we should forgive him... Well I'm not gonna do it. He's covering his butt on this one, I just hope no one falls for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterfowler_gal Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston My personal feelings are if you are going to consider yourself a "pro" outdoors person and are going to represent companies you need to be ethical, consious and take responsibility for any actions you have done. Being a role model is a huge responsibility and being one with a big name people will use any situation to either destroy or put you on a pedalstool... It is a nasty world indeed but a price you pay to hold a position as Jimmy Houston does in the public eye. I think we all would like to know what really happened that day but only God knows and the people who were there. The truth will always come out no matter what... For those of you who didn't know... Jimmy has broken rules and regulations for no hunting lic. in the past and was found guilty... no one's perfect....yet I don't feel it is ok to have role model's for our future hunters (youth) that say hey it is ok to break rules and regulations and take deer unethically. Click here to see an Illinois charge from Jimmy: http://www.judici.com/courts/cases/case_dispositions.jsp?court=IL075015J&ocl=IL075015J,1999CV126,IL075015JL1999CV126D1 I understand that hunting shows need certain shots but whatever happened to fair chase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston Bellar's place is shut down. Houston's testimony helped that happen. He was NOT the one on trial, Bellar was. He cooperated fully with officials investigating the case. This is the only part of the situation that is a matter of public record. In spite of what some may choose to believe based on "Other" presented evidence. Do we truly know the motivations of that source? It's accuracy? Do we? Yet, the Witch Hunt for Houston's blood continues as an emotionally charged and driven bash fest bent on destroying the man's career. Do we have the right to pass such judgement, to instill such hate and promote it's growth? Do we? Do we really? These Houston threads mirror the irrational and emotion only driven threads on PETA's forum. In fact some responses match what they would say WORD FOR WORD. It's scary. Some folks are finding forgiveness in their hearts. Some are giving Jimmy the benefit of the doubt. This is good too see. I don't think it's worth destroying a man's long good standing career as an icon for this industry based on suspicions supplied by a source I'm not familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whttlbucksteve Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I feel it will all come out in the end.Dont people in the public eye do things everday that we dont agree with,or even feel they should be taken out of there profession for it .I have killed a deer in a high fenced area it was for a mount only and have never not told were it came from.I dont call that a hunt ,so I have to set back and see how all this plays out .I do like Jimmy Houston and hope he is not lieing to cover his butt.Hopefully for him and the hunting world he is not lieing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston The letter don,t change my opinion. A professional, of all people, should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest generallee Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I hear some people defending him by saying that "a lot of hunting shows hunt high fence properties".....which may be true. BUt most of these properties are hundreds or thousands of acres, NOT A 3-6 ACRE PEN. I have lost a lot if not all my respect for the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubWSR Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston BowJoe - Because of his strong christian faith and his extremely strong feelings against the use of drugs.... he wouldnt knowingly use drugs to benefit himself in any way. And where does he every admit to shooting a drugged deer in the letter. It says that he sent multiple pieces of meat for testing which all came back negative. Why would somebody that knowingly shot a drugged deer send in the meat when they could simply say we ate it all already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston Another claim that has been mentioned on here is that all TV hunters have hunted in a high fenced area, "if we only knew" right? just to get the pressure off their backs to shoot big bucks for the camera. Well, the problem lies herein. When professional hunters, Realtree Pros included, advertise on their videos that all deer taken are free ranging deer and not fenced in, well, thats what we spend our money on and that is what we respect. Now, if evidence surfaced that Michael Waddell or David Blanton were advertising free ranging deer and it turns out they were hunting in the same situation as Jimmy Houston, well, I would be just as mad, maybe even madder, because I put so much faith into their word. Houston's wife claims there were bigger fish than Jimmy, if that were the case it would have come out. I have also watched the video clips more than once, all of them, and nowhere aside from the video showing Jimmy's laughing, smiling face, do they say that any other hunter there is Jimmy Houston and the other hunts such as the one where the deer is propped up you can see that it isn't him, so I am not buying the "alluding to" the other vlips are showing Jimmy. Besides, in what type of environment, other than a small, enclosed area with lots of deer, are you gonna be laughing, smiling, and talking to the cameraman when a deer is 10 feet from you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston There are so many angles leading into this that no-one has the clear answer. "why did the deer repeatedly run into the fence trying to escape?" I worked on a farm just outside of Bellvue, Nebraska that had an 8ft fence all around the crop land. Periodically the fence would get cut by hunters and the deer would wind up in the enclosure, when the deer got scared while we were trying to herd them out they would run right into the fence at full bore. These deer were not drugged or under any kind of narcotics. This is their natural instintics telling them to get out. This could be what happened here, maybe something pushed them that way. I just think that everyone is going off a video that is portrayed to show you one side of it. Of course they are going to make it look like it was set-up. What about all the police videos that show 20 cops beating up one guy? It only shows you the cops laying a royal smack down on some poor defenseless guy. It doesn't show you the 30 min police chase and the fight he put up. Or that he kicked the crap out of 5 officers just 2 mins ago. Nope just what they want it to show. That way they can steer the common public one way when in actuality the other side of the story is just as convincing as the other. He!! how many have seen a PETA/anit-hunting commercial? Do you see how bad they make hunters look? Is this how hunters are? No but they can easily portray that about us to others that don't know the facts. This could easily be the case here. We are just basing our opinions on the 1 side of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston [ QUOTE ] BowJoe - Because of his strong christian faith and his extremely strong feelings against the use of drugs.... he wouldnt knowingly use drugs to benefit himself in any way. And where does he every admit to shooting a drugged deer in the letter. It says that he sent multiple pieces of meat for testing which all came back negative. Why would somebody that knowingly shot a drugged deer send in the meat when they could simply say we ate it all already. [/ QUOTE ] I am sure you have put him on some sort of pedastal and would like to believe him no matter what. However, he has shown that when presented the opportunity to deceive us about his accomplishments, that he is up to the task until the truth comes out. If this happened in 2003 then why didn't he tell us about this instead of it coming out in the public through other means? His outlook on drugs have nothing to do with whether he would use drugs on a deer. I don't like drugs or people that use drugs but that doesn't mean I have a problem with them using lethal injection on convicted murderers. You are comparing apples to oranges my friend and I am sorry to say that you too could be duped. Bellar may not have used drugs on that deer but JH hunted on the same property in which the owner does. Is that not correct? I don't buy his excuses at all since he didn't have a license (which indicates that he knew it was a totally fenced in deer farm and the deer were placed there) and he smiled and laughed with the deer just running around him and bouncing off the fences. I have never been that casual even with does at that close of a range. He knew and he wanted to fool us as well. Sorry but you were duped whether you want to believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston Would have liked to see some remorse and accountability. Just can't respect anyone who he won't take responsibility for his actions. I'm not in PETA and it ****es me off when Jimmy Houston lumps me in with them because I voice my opinion against what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston [ QUOTE ] Bellar's place is shut down. Houston's testimony helped that happen. He was NOT the one on trial, Bellar was. He cooperated fully with officials investigating the case. This is the only part of the situation that is a matter of public record. [/ QUOTE ] Jimmy mentioned this in his letter as well. I was wondering if this was some type of a plea bargain? Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Re: Open Letter From Jimmy Houston I'm glad I have a pair of knee-hair rubber boots, because his BS is pretty deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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