Draw length question

[Gator]

That is a good question. I am measured at 27", and shoot a 27" draw......so i would so no, but I can't give you a reason as to the no answer. maybe someone else will help.

[buckee]

Re: Draw length question

If you measure your draw length at 26", then get your bow at 26" also. Otherwise you be fighting the wall, when you draw back..

If you did buy a 251/2" bow, you could get away with it if you added a string loop to the string.

Remember that most releases are adjustable, to get your finger in a comfortable position.

[BuckNrut]

Re: Draw length question

No. Use the calculated draw length you came up with: wingspan / 2.5 = draw length.

Source: Archerytalk.com

[buckee]

Re: Draw length question

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If I have a bow with a 26 inch draw and I add a loop for the release then isn't the draw now 26.5? So if I add

[/ QUOTE ] The bow's draw length remains the same, but yes, you have added an extra 1/2+" with the loop. So if your draw length is 26" and the bow's is 26", a string loop would mean you would have to shorten up on your release that 1/2" which would be very uncomfortable, and not good for form at all, or leave the release the same as before the string loop and be fighting the"Let-off" point on the bow, which would also be no good, and hurt your shooting.

You can't just add a string loop, and not have something change.

[buckee]

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I couldn't say, because I shoot off the string. Some guys swear by the D-loop though

[hoyt_hunter]

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i have shot with the d-loop and without and i will always use the loop from now on

[hutchies]

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I always use a loop

1. Less wear on string

2. My bow has such a small valley it helps to keep from having knock pinch.

[bwlacy]

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A loop will also keep your peep straight no matter what. So you don't need one of those stupid rubber tubes.

Also most bows have some type of adjusment on the cam. If not then you twist up the string or the cable depending on if you need to lengthen or shorten the draw length. You can also add a draw stop to the cam and get a solid wall.

[dg]

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If the release is snapped on the string, you may be able to keep 26". It depends on how and where you anchor. I recommend a string loop and maybe a 25.5" draw. Then use the string loop to tweak the length to find that sweet spot of draw length.

[Ravin R10 man]

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I think the only thing that may change for you is your anchor point.....thats not a big deal I shoot a 31 inch draw with an ultra noc (its a metal "D" ring thats clamped onto the string for my release), I had to adjust my anchor point slightly

[Chrud]

Re: Draw length question

A release and/or release loop does not change your draw length. It changes your anchor point.

[dg]

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Maybe semantics here, but yes it does change your draw length. You can anchor at the same spot, but over extend your bow arm.

[VtBowhunter]

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String loops do NOT alter your draw length. They alter your anchor point, so please do not fall into that trap. Keep your draw length right where it should be then add the loop if you want or don't, but don't think it will effect your DL.

[buckee]

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A release and/or release loop does not change your draw length. It changes your anchor point.

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If your anchor point is not comfortable, then yes you have changed your draw length, even though in actuality you'd have to have longer or shorter arms to change your actual draw length.

I find it a lot easier to explain, the way I have, than to say your draw length never changes. If you've done something to lengthen that measurement, by either buying a bow, with a greater draw length that does not match yours or add a string loop, you have in essence changed "The" draw length. Your new anchor point proves that Chrud.

It my not change "your bow's" draw length. but it does change "your" draw length, between your bow, and your comfortable/natural anchor point. It can be measured.

[Doc]

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If you have never used a release, or haven't used a release in a long time, or are changing to a new style of release, don't be messing around trying to guess what the proper draw length of a new bow should be. I can guarantee that any correct guess will be pure luck, and more times than not, your guess will be absolutely wrong, and probably by a lot more than you might think.

Take the guess-work out of the whole situation and visit your local archery shop and using the release you intend to get, try out different draw lengths. Another possibility is to use somebody's bow that has a long draw length and have them mark off the draw length while you are at full draw. That sort of thing just takes all the guess work right out of the whole situation. You can calculate and use all the rules of thumb that you want, but the fact is that a draw length that feels right to you and precisely fits your anchor, seldom follows any calculations or rules. That is one feature of a bow that has to right. Also, you never know, a new release may even get you to change the location of your anchor too. An anchor that felt just right when you were using your fingers or some radically different style of release may simply no longer work for you when you start using a release or changing the style of the release. You can check out a few different anchors too while you're there. Don't be buying a bow based on some guess-work when it comes to draw length. It is too important a feature to risk being wrong about.

Doc

[VtBowhunter]

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A release and/or release loop does not change your draw length. It changes your anchor point.

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If your anchor point is not comfortable, then yes you have changed your draw length, even though in actuality you'd have to have longer or shorter arms to change your actual draw length.

I find it a lot easier to explain, the way I have, than to say your draw length never changes. If you've done something to lengthen that measurement, by either buying a bow, with a greater draw length that does not match yours or add a string loop, you have in essence changed "The" draw length. Your new anchor point proves that Chrud.

It my not change "your" draw length. but it does change "The" draw length, between your bow, and your comfortable/natural anchor point. It can be measured.

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Steve, the bow's draw length is all that matters, not the point from the bow to your comfort spot........if that spot is at the Edge of the Valley, then the person could hurt themself. ALWAYS make sure the bow is at the proper drawlength first, then add the loop and get used to your new anchor point.

Better to be slightly uncomortable for a short time with a new bow, then to risk serious injury to yourself, some one nearby, or damage to your bow.

[VermontHunter]

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I found this great article on this very issue, when I was trying to determine my proper draw length,,, Hopefully it helps here...

DRAW LENGTH

There definitely seems to be a tendency for archers to select a draw length that is too long for their physical structure. Whether this results from our innate inclination that more is somehow always better or out of ignorance, shooting a bow with a draw length that is too long results in poor shooting form and an inconsistent anchor point. I can offer myself as an example of this phenomenon. I have made the pilgrimage from 31 inches down to a more accurate 29-inch draw length and a corresponding reduction in group size!

Proper shooting form should have the body forming a "T", with the shoulders directly over the feet and the torso, neck, and head vertical. Archers shooting a draw length that is too long try to compensate in different ways by altering their shooting form. Some over-extend the bow arm, often to the point where the bow string strikes the arm or the over-extended arm throws the shot to the left at the release, for a right handed shooter. Others tilt the head back or lean back at the waist in order to get the eye behind the string, deviating from the natural upright position.

Shooting a draw length that is too long also makes it difficult or impossible to establish a consistent anchor point. In an activity where consistency of form is the key to accuracy, forcing the body to perform a task in a way that is not natural and comfortable will be detrimental.

Bow manufacturers measure and mark the draw length range on compound bows following the Archery Manufacturers and Merchants Organization (AMO) standard. This assures a standard, uniform method of marking all bows. The AMO standard measures draw length from the bottom of the nock slot of an arrow at full draw (pulled lightly against the wall) to the low point of the grip or pivot point where the bow rests and pivots against the web of your hand, plus 1 ¾ inches. This gives you the AMO draw length of the bow. Therefore a compound bow marked with an AMO draw length range of 28-31 inches has adjustments allowing the draw length, as measured above, to be changed from 28 inches to 31 inches, usually in ½ inch increments.

The best and most accurate way to determine your individual draw length is to have another individual make a measurement as you draw a light recurve bow (10 pounds or less). Note, if you use a compound bow for this determination and draw until it touches the wall, the draw length you get will be that of the bow not yours! Before drawing the bow make a line on the shelf at the point directly above the low point of the grip. Establish good shooting form and place a long, uncut arrow on the string. Using your release or a tab if you shoot with fingers, draw the arrow to the corner of your mouth with the string lightly touching the tip of your nose with your body and head erect and comfortable. Holding at full draw, have your partner mark the drawn arrow at the line you drew on the bow shelf.

The measurement from the bottom of the nock slot to the mark made on the arrow is your True Draw Length. Add 1 ¾ inches to this True Draw Length to obtain your corresponding AMO draw length. This is the draw length you should use when purchasing a new bow or adjusting your present bow.

Determining your draw length is simple but critical to an individual becoming a proficient archer and bowhunter. It is just one of the intrinsic services provided by pro shop staff to get new archers or bowhunters started on the right foot.

A link to this article, with even more info..

http://www.crosswindoutdoors.com/Archive/2long2strong.htm

[Chrud]

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A release and/or release loop does not change your draw length. It changes your anchor point.

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If your anchor point is not comfortable, then yes you have changed your draw length, even though in actuality you'd have to have longer or shorter arms to change your actual draw length.

I find it a lot easier to explain, the way I have, than to say your draw length never changes. If you've done something to lengthen that measurement, by either buying a bow, with a greater draw length that does not match yours or add a string loop, you have in essence changed "The" draw length. Your new anchor point proves that Chrud.

It my not change "your" draw length. but it does change "The" draw length, between your bow, and your comfortable/natural anchor point. It can be measured.

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Steve, the bow's draw length is all that matters, not the point from the bow to your comfort spot........if that spot is at the Edge of the Valley, then the person could hurt themself. ALWAYS make sure the bow is at the proper drawlength first, then add the loop and get used to your new anchor point.

Better to be slightly uncomortable for a short time with a new bow, then to risk serious injury to yourself, some one nearby, or damage to your bow.

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I agree with that. A loop fools you into thinking your draw length is changed, when in fact, you still have an x" cam on your bow.

Get your bow in it's correct draw length. The loop can be altered in length to get the anchor point you want.

[dg]

Re: Draw length question

A release or string loop does not change the bows draw length. It changes the archers draw length.

[buckee]

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That's the way I see it too dg.

Correction in wording

"It my not change "your bow's" draw length. but it does change "your" draw length, between your bow at full draw, and your comfortable/natural anchor point. It can be measured.

[buckee]

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http://www.huntersfriend.com/drawlength.htm

[Guest Sagitarius]

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A release and/or release loop does not change your draw length. It changes your anchor point.

[/ QUOTE ]BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! The apex of the string should always be at the corner of your mouth or very near to that. A release or loop only brings your hand to a different position.

[buckee]

Re: Draw length question

well, it's all in an idividuals perception of your personal draw length. My draw length is based on a measurement from my natural anchor point to the bow.

Point A (anchor point) to Point B (bow) = PD (personal Draw length)

ADD string loop = +1/2"

If you change POINT A, you have changed the distance between A and B, thus changing PD

Point A to Point B plus 1/2" = PD

It's all in perception I guess. Saying it's just your anchor point that changes, is true also, because the new draw length measurement is an artificial length, and not your real draw length.

The only thing that would really bother me about setting up a bow, with a draw, that is 1/2"+ shorter than my own, and making it suit me, with the aid of a string loop, is that you'd never be able to shoot the bow comfortably off the bow-string, without the loop and have little room for adjustments.

[VtBowhunter]

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well, it's all in an idividuals perception of your personal draw length. My draw length is based on a measurement from my natural anchor point to the bow.

Point A (anchor point) to Point B (bow) = PD (personal Draw length)

ADD string loop = +1/2"

If you change POINT A, you have changed the distance between A and B, thus changing PD

Point A to Point B plus 1/2" = PD

It's all in perception I guess. Saying it's just your anchor point that changes, is true also, because the new draw length measurement is an artificial length, and not your real draw length.

The only thing that would really bother me about setting up a bow, with a draw, that is 1/2"+ shorter than my own, and making it suit me, with the aid of a string loop, is that you'd never be able to shoot the bow comfortably off the bow-string, without the loop and have little room for adjustments.

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As if this wasn't confusing enough......now you have to go and throw math into it

[NY_Bowhunter14]

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w/ a release the bow string has to touch the tip of your nose