ParrotHead Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 An update on the “Spotted Owl” Now you remember that Gore went on a tear about the spotted owl causing Clinton to protect billions of acres of forest in the Pacific Northwest, putting thousands out of jobs in the logging industry and adding to the ever growing price of lumber don’t you? Well let’s take a look at the where we are after ten years of federal protection. According to a study conducted by a private firm for the Fish and Wildlife Service, the northern spotted owl continues on the decline despite efforts to protect it, and faces a host of new threats such as wildfires and the barred owl, which is taking over spotted owl habitat in the West. The report also suggested that overall, northern spotted owls declined by about 3.7 percent per year from 1985 to 2003. The drop was especially steep in Washington State, where the number of owls went down by about 7.3 percent per year. Not only have created a fire hazard by letting the forests build up, we’ve allowed the dreaded barred owl to come in and take over! Good going there Al – friends like you and these owls don’t need any enemies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern Hoot hoot. Really am thankful Al Gore did not make into the White House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern Would you be posting the same condesending remarks about Gore trying to save the Spotted Owl if Whitetail Deer or Elk were endangered and he poured billions of dollars into that to try and save the species, or how about Moose, or Mourning Dove's or some other animal that you hunt, what if they were hunted to near extinction and there had to be regulations and money spent to repopulate the species. Just because you couldn't give a crap about a bird that you can't kill, doesn't make it any less valuable to someone who wants to save it. The fact that they are still on the decline is moot, at least someone tried, unfortunately there are too many factors and pollutants nowadays that cause animals to die off. I read somewhere on-line that out in Colorado they were studying fish in a particular stream and they noticed that there were fish that were basically hermaphrodites, male fish but growing female sex organs also and they attributed it to the amount of estrogen flowing into the rivers and streams from sewage lines, now how scary is that, 40 years from now you could start growing female organs all because there is too much estrogen in the water you drink. Makes you wonder why there are Doe's starting to pop up with antlers, I've read about 2 in magazines recently, in Texas, and right here in North Carolina near Concord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern Now come on sluggo, you are so quick to jump at someone reading something into your posts, now look at you. I never said I did not care about a bird and its possible extinction. Actually I do care about all wildlife and try to help do my part. I do however think Al Gore was a joke and his attempt to try and save this bird as you say was a moot point, he still got the support for protecting the bird which in the end really did not do what he thought it would. As far as your comment about does starting to pop up with antlers, that is nothing new buddy. That has been happening for longer than I have been alive, same with bearded hen turkeys. It happens, nothing really new as you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted November 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern Maybe Gore can come up with another brillant idea on how to save the male population of all species next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern I wasn't trying to read into your post wtnhunt, I was making remarks referring to Parrotheads post, but noone has answered my question. If Al Gore had put billions of dollars into saving a game animal so it didn't go extinct, would the response be the same. Would you thank him for repopulating the species, or would you curse him because you should have been able to hunt the animal regardless of it's endangerment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern sluggo what he did for those owls obviously did not work. Your thoughts about the what ifs, guess if he was supporting for example a endagered wild turkey population and it was currently endangered, I guess I might be interested in hearing just how it would work out. Problem is his plan did not work, it backfired. He would have to have some convincing plans to propose for me to be supportive. Seeing as how this is a what if session, if by some chance he did do so and it worked out, I guess I would have to be thankful to him for his efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: And this was Al Gores biggest concern [ QUOTE ] sluggo what he did for those owls obviously did not work. Your thoughts about the what ifs, guess if he was supporting for example a endagered wild turkey population and it was currently endangered, I guess I might be interested in hearing just how it would work out. Problem is his plan did not work, it backfired. He would have to have some convincing plans to propose for me to be supportive. Seeing as how this is a what if session, if by some chance he did do so and it worked out, I guess I would have to be thankful to him for his efforts. [/ QUOTE ] plenty of plans backfire......just ask old GW. you guys must be pretty bored to even debate anything gore did. pretty pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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