fisherguy Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 This is a woman who moved to Iraq, married and Iraqi, and spent the last 20 years or something helping the Iraqi people, and they murder her as a thank you. My view on the war has now oficially changed. Get the heck out and let them kill each other. Forget stability, any nation who has a population (part of it anway) willing to do that is beyond help. BAGHDAD, Iraq - Al-Jazeera television said Tuesday it received a videotape showing the slaying of a woman believed to be hostage aid worker Margaret Hassan. Hassan's family in London said they believed the longtime director of CARE in Iraq was dead. The station initially said it would air parts of the video, but then a spokesman said it would not. "We don't show acts of killing," said Jihad Ballout. "We've never done it before, outside war." CARE said in a statement, "It is with profound sadness that we have learned of the existence of a video in which it appears that our colleague Margaret Hassan has been killed. ... The whole of CARE is in mourning." The 59-year-old Briton was abducted in Baghdad on Oct. 19, the most prominent of more than 170 foreigners kidnapped in Iraq this year. Her captors later issued videos showing her pleading for Britain to withdraw its troops from Iraq and calling for the release of female Iraqi prisoners. Ballout said the station received the tape a few days ago but had not been sure of its authenticity. "We invited British diplomatic officials to come and view it," he said. "It's now likely that the image depicts Mrs. Hassan." Her four brothers and sisters said they believe Hassan is dead. "Our hearts are broken," they said in a statement. "We have kept hoping for as long as we could, but we now have to accept that Margaret has probably gone and at last her suffering has ended." The family did not indicate why they now believed Hassan was dead, but said: "Those who are guilty of this atrocious act, and those who support them, have no excuses." On Sunday, U.S. Marines found the mutilated body of what they believe was a Western woman on a street in a Fallujah during the U.S. assault on the insurgent stronghold. Besides Hassan, the only Western woman known held was Teresa Borcz Khalifa, 54, a Polish-born longtime resident of Iraq who was seized last month. Al-Jazeera reported on Nov. 2 that Hassan's captors had threatened to turn her over to followers of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Al-Zarqawi and his men have been blamed for numerous deadly car bombings and the slayings of foreign hostages, including three Americans and a Briton. More than 170 foreigners have been kidnapped in Iraq this year; more than 30 of them have been slain. Born in Ireland, Hassan also held British and Iraqi citizenship. She lived in Iraq for 30 years and married an Iraqi. In its statement, her family said: "Nobody can justify this. Margaret was against sanctions and the war. To commit such a crime against anyone is unforgivable. But we cannot believe how anybody could do this to our kind, compassionate sister. "The gap she leaves will never be filled." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] Forget Iraq, let them kill each other [/ QUOTE ] Problem is, then the media and the left would be clammering that the President wasn't doing anything to prevent the killings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. Even we had help. Believe it or not the French helped us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] Even we had help. Believe it or not the French helped us. [/ QUOTE ] Be careful, some on here might start calling you a French lover over that statement, even if it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] let them fight for it just like we did 200+ years ago. [/ QUOTE ] I don't remember the slaves fighting and winning their own freedom. It took free men (white men) to fight on their behalf, to gain their freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] let them fight for it just like we did 200+ years ago. [/ QUOTE ] I don't remember the slaves fighting and winning their own freedom. It took free men (white men) to fight on their behalf, to gain their freedom. [/ QUOTE ] The ones who were able to escape or who were already free and living in the North fought for the Union to help free their brothers in the South. Didn't you ever see "Glory" Buckee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. Yeah, let them all die and let god sort them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] let them fight for it just like we did 200+ years ago. [/ QUOTE ] I don't remember the slaves fighting and winning their own freedom. It took free men (white men) to fight on their behalf, to gain their freedom. [/ QUOTE ] The ones who were able to escape or who were already free and living in the North fought for the Union to help free their brothers in the South. Didn't you ever see "Glory" Buckee? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I am aware of that slugger. Maybe you missed my point here. The war against slavery wasn't led by freed slaves, it was led by whites, much the same way Iraq's freedom from tyranny is being fought today. The war against their slavery is being led by the USA and there are Iraqi's who are fighting along side them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Re: Forget Iraq, let them kill each other. [ QUOTE ] IMO.......we need to take care of our own before we step foot on foreign soil. We have plenty of suffering within our own country that needs to be taken care of before we go around the world playing the good samaritan. [/ QUOTE ] I could agree more...we DO need to take care of business at home first. But aren't we over in Iraq on a good samaritan mission, we are supposedly over there to keep us safe at home, so in a round about way we are taking care of us first. (I don't want to argue what the "real" reason is that we are over there, my argument is based on the reasons we have been given.) We are the ones who started this war over there, and we should be the ones who see it through to completion. If the US were to step out now they would probably be worse off then when we got there. What should really bother people is that these people (Iraqi's) can kill innocent people, people who have dedicated their entire lives to helping those less fortunate then themselves, and yet our troops are still seen as the bad guys in this war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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