HarvDog Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I have been painting our master bathroom and now starting to hang new lights. We currently have two recessed canister lights (one over the shower and one over the Jacuzzi tub). We want to hang a nice crystal chandelier over the tub. Obviously the hole for the currently light will be bigger than the new box I need to install to hang the chandelier. I could use one of those medallion covers but wanted to get some suggests about the best way to patch this hole then re-cut to fit the new box. How difficult will this be? Other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... Well, a lot of that depends...especially in the ceiling type. If smooth ceilings, you are in business. If stippled ceilings or popcorn ceilings, you could be in for some work. First, take the can light out and then you will probably have to do some framing against the rafters with 2x4's to get the new box centered and provide some sort of nailing surface for the new drywall. Once you do that, you just need to get some drywall and I would use a tool--not sure what you call it--but you put it on the end of a drill and it cuts a perfect circle. You will need that perfect circle to fill in where the can light was. Cut that out and mark where the new box's cutout should be and cut it. Install it with SCREWS and not nails. If it isn't a really tight fit, press some drywall compound in any cracks and mound it a little so that you can sand it. Then I would put a very thin layer of drywall tape around the cracks and then cover it with more compound. Sand until smooth and repaint. It sounds difficult but it really isn't too bad. If you have popcorn or stippled ceilings, forget everything I said and just move. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... You wanna talk mess? Around the lowest portion of my trey ceiling in my bedroom, the corner bracket used to make the nice, crisp corner bead started coming loose. I used about 100 dry way screws all the way around the room to push the corner bead back up. I had to mound drywall compound to both fill in the cracks and to fill the indentions around the room. So I have a master bedroom sized area that must be sanded down. I don't know HOW I will keep the dust down on that job. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] Well, a lot of that depends...especially in the ceiling type. If smooth ceilings, you are in business. If stippled ceilings or popcorn ceilings, you could be in for some work. First, take the can light out and then you will probably have to do some framing against the rafters with 2x4's to get the new box centered and provide some sort of nailing surface for the new drywall. Once you do that, you just need to get some drywall and I would use a tool--not sure what you call it--but you put it on the end of a drill and it cuts a perfect circle. You will need that perfect circle to fill in where the can light was. Cut that out and mark where the new box's cutout should be and cut it. Install it with SCREWS and not nails. If it isn't a really tight fit, press some drywall compound in any cracks and mound it a little so that you can sand it. Then I would put a very thin layer of drywall tape around the cracks and then cover it with more compound. Sand until smooth and repaint. It sounds difficult but it really isn't too bad. If you have popcorn or stippled ceilings, forget everything I said and just move. New [/ QUOTE ] Ditto... And textured ceilings are very hard to match... I hate doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... All that said, I would just use the decorative medallion covers that sit flat against the ceiling. There are several types and styles so that it doesn't look hokie. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] All that said, I would just use the decorative medallion covers that sit flat against the ceiling. There are several types and styles so that it doesn't look hokie. New [/ QUOTE ] First off...I do have a smooth ceiling. Secondly...let me throw in a twist: I will need to install a hook and sorta drape the chandelier over since the current recessed light is not exactly centered over the tub. Otherwise...I would have gone with the medallion and probably would have been done already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... good advise above, but I would ask myself first, "Do I really want a chandelier hanging over my tub ?"...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] good advise above, but I would ask myself first, "Do I really want a chandelier hanging over my tub ?"...LOL [/ QUOTE ] LOL I hear you. I would have never thought of this or suggested it but the wife saw it on a home decorating show and loved it. Actually, it looked really nice so hopefully I can accomplish the same look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] saw it on a home decorating show [/ QUOTE ] OH GEESH, not your wife too. I think those shows should be banned from TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... Yeah Harvdog, It might look much more like an accident if you hire some homeless guy off the street to sabotage the wife. If you do it yourself and the inspectors find no nails in the supports for that 200 pound chandalier, it might be somewhat suspicious! Why the **** don't they center things? I just don't get that. You have to install it....you don't save time by making something off center, so why don't you just center it and save the homeowner some aggrivation? If I were you, I would drywall over the original hole....should be easy to fix and move the fixture to the middle. If necessary, you should have enough room to run a 1" butterfly bit through the original opening and cut through the rafter to pull the supply in (that's even if it is necessary to do so. I would make the new opening, install the new box and then close up the old one. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] Yeah Harvdog, It might look much more like an accident if you hire some homeless guy off the street to sabotage the wife. If you do it yourself and the inspectors find no nails in the supports for that 200 pound chandalier, it might be somewhat suspicious! Why the **** don't they center things? I just don't get that. You have to install it....you don't save time by making something off center, so why don't you just center it and save the homeowner some aggrivation? If I were you, I would drywall over the original hole....should be easy to fix and move the fixture to the middle. If necessary, you should have enough room to run a 1" butterfly bit through the original opening and cut through the rafter to pull the supply in (that's even if it is necessary to do so. I would make the new opening, install the new box and then close up the old one. New [/ QUOTE ] I actually thought about this as well and might just go that direction. It might be a little more work but, once complete, should look the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Drywall repair question... [ QUOTE ] not sure what you call it--but you put it on the end of a drill and it cuts a perfect circle. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe a hole saw you are referring to. Harv, if there are already studs in the ceiling where you need them, you can find the stud and put your hook for hanging the chandelier in that stud and have a minimal amount of work involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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