hutchies Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? This is how I do it. I get set in my tree and range a tree near the trail they are walking at about the same distance up the tree that I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] sorry for the dialogue tominator - nothing intended, just want to learn [/ QUOTE ] LOL, no apology needed. I may have seemed short, sorry about that, but I was short on time. Derek did a good explanation on the why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? Speed baby! It takes the arc out of archery(I don't shoot a Bow-tec) and gets the arrow there flatter. Slower bows have more arch there for you aim lower from an elevated platform. Faster shooting bows will be able to aim dead on and not have to worry about aiming lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jduffy03 Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] First you have to understand that an arrow or any other object traveling a horizontal distance is only going to fall at the constant rate based on gravitational pull. So that means that if your target is only 20 yards from the base of your tree, the arrow will drop only by "x" amount from gravity, regardless if you are on the ground, 20' up, 30' up, or 200' up. So, regardless of how high you are up the tree, you will want to shoot the deer for 20 yards. However, if you use a rangefinder (not the self adjusting one refered too earlier), it will read "20 yards" at the base of the tree, "21.08 yards" at 20 feet up the tree, "22.36 yards" at 30' up the tree, and "69.6 yards" at 200' up the tree (my exagerated example). In a nut shell, always take the horizontal distance from you to the animal as your aiming yardage, not the diagonal yardage. What the self correcting rangefinders do is caluculate the horizontal distance based on the diagonal distance that a normal range finder would shoot. What I don't get is the fascination with this technology with today's bows. Unless you are bow hunting say, in the mountains for a goat that is on a cliff either way below or above you, why would you even care about the correction needed? The vast majority of us are hunting whitetails, on reasonably sloped (or flat) ground and are perched anywhere from 15' to 25' feet up (OK, there are some 30' nuts out there too). The distance between horizontal and vertical distances is not significant enough to worry about when today's bows shoot so fast and flat. Hold the 20 yard pin on and you've got a dead dear from 10 yards out to 25 yards. I think these self adjusting rangefinders have a place in hunting, but I think the bulk of the bowhunters would be better served to take the keep it simple method. [/ QUOTE ] I couldn't agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PAT_PATTERSON Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] I believe that one to be true. Most people will tell you to simply bend at the waist. [/ QUOTE ] The most common reason for bending at the waist is not dropping your bow arm. When you shoot from an elevated stand and drop your bow arm to sight your target you change the string or peep angle in relation to your eye and thus changing your point of impact. Shoot higher or lower in other words. Maintain good form ,draw as if on flat ground come to your normal anchor, bend at the waist to get on your Target, aim and shoot. I also agree with the older bow (slower speed theory) will have more arc in arrow flight and toady's faster bow are more forgiven in distance judging. But good form is the key to consistent shooting, so practice, practice and practice some more from elevated stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? basic vector physics!!! when shooting at an angle, you have a horizontal vector and a verticle vector. To gauge the drop of your arrow, you want to use the time it takes to cover the horiazontal distance. This is why you use the horizontal distance, not the hypotenuse. And the same if you are shooting at an upward angle. Pick up a 1st level physics book, and go to the chapters on vectors. It will give you some examples. Looks like my physics degree is good for something!!!! --rossman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksbowhntr77 Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? Hey Tominator, I don't want to be critical of your mathematical sifurin but isn't 21 feet 7yards and 7 yards squared is 49? Just thought I'd ask, being a teacher and all I didn't want you to error on the forum. No ill feelings, just askin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] Hey Tominator, I don't want to be critical of your mathematical sifurin but isn't 21 feet 7yards and 7 yards squared is 49? Just thought I'd ask, being a teacher and all I didn't want you to error on the forum. No ill feelings, just askin' [/ QUOTE ] Yep, you are correct sir. I stand corrected. I got 3 stuck in my brain when I converted feet to yards. That deer would actually be 21.18962 yards away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey Tominator, I don't want to be critical of your mathematical sifurin but isn't 21 feet 7yards and 7 yards squared is 49? Just thought I'd ask, being a teacher and all I didn't want you to error on the forum. No ill feelings, just askin' [/ QUOTE ] Yep, you are correct sir. I stand corrected. I got 3 stuck in my brain when I converted feet to yards. That deer would actually be 21.18962 yards away. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you DID use your "theroy" when you missed that 140" at 12 yards......MORON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksbowhntr77 Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? Now guys I didn't mean to start a fued. I merely brought the error to Tominator's attention for correction. In my profession that is called a professional courtesy. (Plus it's sometimes fun!!) LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey Tominator, I don't want to be critical of your mathematical sifurin but isn't 21 feet 7yards and 7 yards squared is 49? Just thought I'd ask, being a teacher and all I didn't want you to error on the forum. No ill feelings, just askin' [/ QUOTE ] Yep, you are correct sir. I stand corrected. I got 3 stuck in my brain when I converted feet to yards. That deer would actually be 21.18962 yards away. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you DID use your "theroy" when you missed that 140" at 12 yards......MORON! [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Then tell me, Professor, why didn't you use this simple black and white theroy on Mr. 140" 2 years ago? Hmmm? Hmmm? [/ QUOTE ] Is that the Danville spelling of theory or something? Hmmmmm, Mr. Steward, sir, hmmmmmmm. And I'm the mow-ron? AF DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? Now I have to either add a calculator or a slide rule to my hunting kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? um i say practice makes perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey Tominator, I don't want to be critical of your mathematical sifurin but isn't 21 feet 7yards and 7 yards squared is 49? Just thought I'd ask, being a teacher and all I didn't want you to error on the forum. No ill feelings, just askin' [/ QUOTE ] Yep, you are correct sir. I stand corrected. I got 3 stuck in my brain when I converted feet to yards. That deer would actually be 21.18962 yards away. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you DID use your "theroy" when you missed that 140" at 12 yards......MORON! [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Then tell me, Professor, why didn't you use this simple black and white theroy on Mr. 140" 2 years ago? Hmmm? Hmmm? [/ QUOTE ] Is that the Danville spelling of theory or something? Hmmmmm, Mr. Steward, sir, hmmmmmmm. And I'm the mow-ron? AF DB [/ QUOTE ] Just trieing to spel two you're leavel, mow-ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atthewall Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? When elevated, aim for the exit. The arrow enters higher and leaves lower. Make sure you maximize your arrows path through the kill zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: distance to target from tree stand? Point is that something traveling straight down doesn't have to compensate for anything where as something traveling in a slight to major horizontal direction is still being pulled down. The sharper the angle down, the less compensation you have to make for the arch of gravity's pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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