Doc Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I am curious as to how many states actually do a live deer count as part of their management system. Does your state do a count? I don't necessarily mean on an annual basis, but just often enough to verify their statistical calculations and assumptions. If so, what method do they use? Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count Do not believe so. I think they use harvest data to estimate the numbers if I am not mistaken. I would assume that is how they estimate by county, tags of animals checked in have to specify the county they were killed in. I have heard of some individuals doing some research for a college study, counting deer on ground owned by the arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count Wis. DNR uses the "SAK" method, I beleive it stands for Sex Age of the Kill for that year. They used to count deer turds in the yards and somehow come up with a number of deer....when I treid that in my lot where I let the cows out everyday..I had well over 500 cows in a 40 cow barn!! ROFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count [ QUOTE ] They used to count deer turds in the yards and somehow come up with a number of deer.. [/ QUOTE ] Somewhere I read that you divide the number of droppings by 13 and that gives you the number of deer. A deer supposedly defecates 13 times a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count I know they do Doc but I honestly don't know exactly how they do it. I do know they had about 40 people out all night long last spring doing counts in various areas and darting some deer for some reason. Can't remember exactly what the darting was all about though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI2506 Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count I think they still do fly overs in the winter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count Texas counts deer every year. Probably one of the main reasons we have one of the healthiest deer herds in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count I honestly don't know how Ohio does it, but they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Re: Deer Count The DNR does a pellet count down here. Can,t you just see the game warden in the woods. One pellet--Two pellets--- Three pellets---Four pellets------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count [ QUOTE ] The DNR does a pellet count down here. Can,t you just see the game warden in the woods. One pellet--Two pellets--- Three pellets---Four pellets------- [/ QUOTE ] NOW THATS FUNNY!!!!ROFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count yes they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PAT_PATTERSON Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count Not to my knowledge, I have asked how they come up with numbers of average kills per year. The answer is they poll 50% of the hunters in my state (FL) and assign numbers. with no check stations or check ins period (except for a few WMA's) they have to just SWAG it I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count I believe that PA is involved in some kind of aerial survey. I really don't know the details though. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count [ QUOTE ] I believe that PA is involved in some kind of aerial survey. I really don't know the details though. Doc [/ QUOTE ] Think PA's aerial surveys were only for specific areas not for a statewide count if I am not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Re: Deer Count Vermont does, but I can't see how.........I'm guessing the numbers they come up with are way off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldblue Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: Deer Count PA had an aerial count with a heat sensor and only in the counties in the middle of the state. Not sure how accurate it was, but they contracted a company from out West to conduct the study and they had problems getting it done because of weather. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Deer Count Quite a while ago, I visited the website of the outfit that was doing that survey for PA. Sorry, I do not remember their name. However, they were talking some pretty impressive accuracy numbers, as I recall. They also had some pictures of the typical count fly-over, and I was quite impressed with the clarity and detail of the images. They were showing pictures of an elk count that they had done out west somewhere, and there was absolutely no confusion about what kind of animal it was or how many were in each group. I have no idea what they charge, but it sure looked like good way to get an accurate look at the population. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Deer Count I'm a little disappointed that we didn't hear from more states on this question than we did. I was hoping that I could get an idea just what states saw some value in attempting some kind of a deer count, and just how they were approaching it. I think that I am a believer in periodically doing some kind of deer count just to verify that the statistical methods are not drifting too far astray from reality over the decades. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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