JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 well, i just called around to a few fire arms dealers in the area to buy my dad a winchester 30-30 before they outsource in a few days.....a $300 gun a month ago, now selling EVERYWHERE for $1100!!!!! What a fricking joke.....i can tell you that i won't buy anything with the winchester logo on it EVER EVER EVER EVER again.......all because of greed........they screwed over the employees and the consumer....proud to say that i will not be buying winchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? It isn't Winchester you should be mad at there...those gun shops already paid winchester for those guns long ago at the $300 price...the shop is just getting greedy and scaming off the news that the gunworks are closing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? i just heard that winchester sent out letters declaring the price increase.....that was my question....if they had the guns already in stock before the annoucement why couldn't they sell them at the "regular" price......evidently they raised the prices on any in stock and new....that is hear say, but not off the wall.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? WOW. Glad i already have one. That is a big jump in price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? I have a winchester 30-30...is it valueable even if its 4 yrs old??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? they could sell them at regular price still, but it's just that whole supply and demand thing again. There is no longer a supply, and the demand is higher, because of that. So, the shops can raise their prices through the roof, and still sell the guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? the price stopped me from buying it, hopefully everyone else is going to see past that and not pay that outrageous price....i am heading to the pawn shops now.......might find a steal there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? That's not right. I know supply and demand but here we go again with the outsourcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? guys i talked to said prices increased over a month ago....the outsourcing upsets me the most...which is why i won't purchase their products, firearms, clothing, ammo, whatever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? That is bogus...no company is going to issue a "price increase" on guns they have already sold...I checked all the Winchester press relaeases and called my local gunshop and clarified that they are still selling them at the normal price of $300 to $350. All Winchester did was close the factory and state that there are no plans to move the guns exclusively buit at that factory to overseas factories, thus ending production of the Model 70 bolt, Model 94 Lever and Model 1300 Pump shotgun. A great loss to be sure, however they are not the ones changing the price on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? appreciate the feedback reloader, i will check elsewhere.......that is why i value the forums, i get eduated....THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? [ QUOTE ] guys i talked to said prices increased over a month ago....the outsourcing upsets me the most...which is why i won't purchase their products, firearms, clothing, ammo , whatever.... [/ QUOTE ] There are 2 companies using the Winchester name...DON'T CONFUSE THEM! Olin Corp. makes the Ammo and clothing lines. Herstal Group makes the guns! The ammo and clothing lines are not made by the same company that closed the factory. Olin is the company that owns Winchester Amunition and at one time owned the Gunworks as well. They sold the gun manufacture rights and the factory to USRAC (US Repeating Arms Co.) who in turn was bought out by Herstal, a Belgian company that also owns Browning. Since Winchester's Model 70 and 94 guns are a direct competitor to Browning's, A-bolt and BLR respectively, the company is discontinuing the Winchester guns to limit the competition on the Brownings which are cheaper to make and have a higher profit margin. They will not come out and say that but they do say the decision to not transfer those popular lines to other factories was a "financial" one...you read between the lines... Olin still owns the Winchester Amunition and Clothing rights and remains a strong company. In 2007 Herstal will lose its rights to the Winchester name and it will revert entirely back to Olin...the question being do they want it back or will they renew the license just to keep this whole disaster out of their hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKAPP01 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? i just sent you a pm reloader......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? I don't see USRA doing the price gouging, more like the distributors or retailers. Even so, you are ticked off because you procrastinated and now that its the last minute, the price goes up. I guess you gambled that distributors would discontinue them and sell them cheap. It was a coin toss and it came up the other way. They are still out there and available for moderate prices if you want one bad enough to hunt one down. If you feel the need to boycot Winchester products based on what USRA did, that is your perogative. Its just called business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? [ QUOTE ] It isn't Winchester you should be mad at there...those gun shops already paid winchester for those guns long ago at the $300 price...the shop is just getting greedy and scaming off the news that the gunworks are closing. [/ QUOTE ] A shame they will gouge their customers like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ronin Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? Interestingly, the wholesale companies are blowing them out for rock bottom prices. I've bought several Win's for customers over the last couple months at much cheaper prices than normal. I would shop a little more if your interested in a Winchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? Save your money buy a marlin 336. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MIhillbilly Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? I was in Gander Mtn. today and in the gun dept. they have a rack of Winchesters with a sign saying "Get 'em while you can." The prices for the Model 70's were $749 to $849, right around the MSRP. In my experience, Gander Mtn. prices are usually a good bit less than MSRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron buck Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? Save yourself the hassel of overpaying for a current production Winchester 94........that in NO WAY is worth $1000. Go out & buy a Marlin 30-30. It is a nicer rifle anyway. I bought a current production M70 300 win mag just before the prices went North......And I will say this. It was the WORST quality I have seen from a domestic manufacturer. Lucky I wanted it just for the action. I will have a custom 375HH made from it. There is NO WAY that rifle would have been worth a premium price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? [ QUOTE ] Go out & buy a Marlin 30-30. It is a nicer rifle anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Thats what I would do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Who Else Is Not Thrilled????? i'd shop around, check out http://cdnnsports.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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