buckee Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children I see your point Gary, but it's never "too little, too late" when it comes to expressing ones feelings about something they feel strongly about. And you're absolutely right...It's not Just this game in question, it's the whole package. What do we do...just shut-up and keep going, while sitting in the apathetic back seat? [ QUOTE ] So steve tell me where your going with this? [/ QUOTE ] no-where apparently I'm trying to approach a spiritual problem with our nation in a secular fashion and it just doesn't cut the mustard, does it. If I approached it the way it should be approached, in a spiritual way, then I'd get a lot more negative feed back I guess the reason for this discussion on my part is the hope that many who read this will look and wonder where our sad society is headed down the road and take action, even if it is as simple as boycotting these games, to clear their own conscience. Opening a few eyes and ears was my motive. We are what we eat, spiritually speaking. I know the problems are bigger than a game and it certainly is bigger than anything I have to say, but we all should take the time to reflect on these things and try our best to do something, if nothing more than looking at our own hearts and what we believe is good or evil. [ QUOTE ] Lot's of the people that answered are fighting it and every game like it the best way they know how - by not buying it and not allowing their children to play it. [/ QUOTE ] Keep up the good work. Boycott is a step in the right direction, besides changing the hearts and souls of the people who produce these things. We really do need to wake up. I know one thing for sure. When Jesus told his disciples to "Feed my sheep", he didn't have this kind of soul food in mind. And with that, I'll crawl back into my corner of depression as I look out at our present world. Is it so wrong to care enough, too at least say something. Am I nothing more than a dog barking up an empty tree, in your eyes. Must be the angle..LOL..I see something up there. Is "Too little, too late" going to be our excuse for our own apathy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children OK,, here's just a little FACT,, but Im sure it will still be debated to death.... Video games linked to aggression, study finds Analysis of 20 years of research sees immediate and long-lasting effects Updated: 7:43 p.m. ET Aug. 19, 2005 WASHINGTON - Most studies done on violence and video games support the conclusion that violent video games can increase aggressive behavior in children and adolescents, especially boys, researchers said on Friday. An analysis of 20 years of research shows the effects can be both immediate and long-lasting. "The majority of the studies would suggest there are effects," said Jessica Nicoll of Saint Leo University in Saint Leo, Florida, who worked on the study. One study showed that children who played a violent game for less than 10 minutes and then took a mood assessment test rated themselves with aggressive traits and aggressive actions shortly after playing. Teachers of 600 8th and 9th graders, aged 13 to 15, said children who spent more time playing violent video games were more hostile than other children and more likely to argue with authority figures and other students. The findings, presented at an annual meeting of American Psychological Association, prompted the group to adopt a resolution recommending that all violence be reduced in video games and interactive media marketed to children and youth. "Additionally, the APA also encourages parents, educators and health care providers to help youth make more informed choices about which games to play," the Association said in a statement. Bad examples Video games set a bad example and may be particularly influential because a player takes on the roles of heroes and villains, violent and otherwise, the APA said. Perpetrators of violence go unpunished 73 percent of the time in all violent scenes, the group said. "Showing violent acts without consequences teach youth that violence is an effective means of resolving conflict," said psychologist Elizabeth Carll, who helps direct the group's Committee on Violence in Video Games and Interactive Media. Nicoll said in an interview that "only a handful" of the studies she and colleagues examined found no connection between violence and violent video games. The findings are similar to those seen for violent television shows. Joaquim Ferreira of the University of Coimbra in Portugal and colleagues studied more than 800 youngsters aged from 9 to 14 and found the biggest factor linking television violence and actual aggression was the child's understanding of the violence. "It is the way you perceive the violence and how you deal with the kids and help them understand reality," Ferreira, who also presented his findings to the APA meeting, said in an interview. Parents can sit with children and explain cartoons or television shows to them -- something the APA and other groups recommend doing. But this is more difficult to do with video games, Ferreira said. "You are part of the thing," he said. "You get involved in the violence because you are doing it." Source Link..... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9013744/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children I have a feeling that when Jesus said "Feed my sheep" he wasn't talking about hunting forums either Is it wrong to care? No. Is it wrong to say something? No. Is too little, too late our excuse for apathy? I don't know is it yours? My point isn't to little to late it's more of don't try to clear your conscience on one game and then think everything is ok in the world on a spiritual level. The Bible I read tells me that won't happen until someone comes back. And don't worry I don't shoot at dogs, even if they bark all night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] don't try to clear your conscience on one game and then think everything is ok in the world on a spiritual level. The Bible I read tells me that won't happen until someone comes back. [/ QUOTE ] I knew somebody would come to that conclusion without me spelling it out Yes, he is coming, and I hope soon. "Fight the good fight" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children Wow I said something so profound that I got a topic moved to the political room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Goose Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] OK,, here's just a little FACT,, but Im sure it will still be debated to death.... Video games linked to aggression, study finds Analysis of 20 years of research sees immediate and long-lasting effects Updated: 7:43 p.m. ET Aug. 19, 2005 WASHINGTON - Most studies done on violence and video games support the conclusion that violent video games can increase aggressive behavior in children and adolescents, especially boys, researchers said on Friday. An analysis of 20 years of research shows the effects can be both immediate and long-lasting. "The majority of the studies would suggest there are effects," said Jessica Nicoll of Saint Leo University in Saint Leo, Florida, who worked on the study. One study showed that children who played a violent game for less than 10 minutes and then took a mood assessment test rated themselves with aggressive traits and aggressive actions shortly after playing. Teachers of 600 8th and 9th graders, aged 13 to 15, said children who spent more time playing violent video games were more hostile than other children and more likely to argue with authority figures and other students. The findings, presented at an annual meeting of American Psychological Association, prompted the group to adopt a resolution recommending that all violence be reduced in video games and interactive media marketed to children and youth. "Additionally, the APA also encourages parents, educators and health care providers to help youth make more informed choices about which games to play," the Association said in a statement. Bad examples Video games set a bad example and may be particularly influential because a player takes on the roles of heroes and villains, violent and otherwise, the APA said. Perpetrators of violence go unpunished 73 percent of the time in all violent scenes, the group said. "Showing violent acts without consequences teach youth that violence is an effective means of resolving conflict," said psychologist Elizabeth Carll, who helps direct the group's Committee on Violence in Video Games and Interactive Media. Nicoll said in an interview that "only a handful" of the studies she and colleagues examined found no connection between violence and violent video games. The findings are similar to those seen for violent television shows. Joaquim Ferreira of the University of Coimbra in Portugal and colleagues studied more than 800 youngsters aged from 9 to 14 and found the biggest factor linking television violence and actual aggression was the child's understanding of the violence. "It is the way you perceive the violence and how you deal with the kids and help them understand reality," Ferreira, who also presented his findings to the APA meeting, said in an interview. Parents can sit with children and explain cartoons or television shows to them -- something the APA and other groups recommend doing. But this is more difficult to do with video games, Ferreira said. "You are part of the thing," he said. "You get involved in the violence because you are doing it." Source Link..... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9013744/ [/ QUOTE ] Very good article. Perhaps then there needs to be a ban games like this and there needs to be action taken. But I know that I have played games like these and not once has it crossed my mind to raise a hand against anyone that wasn't posing an imedeate phyiscal threat to me. Too bad our soceity has come to this. I also had a rather stable childhood so I never really had a reason to think of it. Whatever the cause is I know it is happening more and more today. Thank you for finding the proof to back up your arguement, I can respect that. I'm gunna throw my xbox out the window now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] I'm gunna throw my xbox out the window now . [/ QUOTE ] Make sure you through it my way,,, because there are still alot of great game out there to play... NOT all games are BAD,, I really think that this is a great topic to debate and discuss, as long as well keep cool heads about it.... It a very important topic, because it involves our society and our children of the present and future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children So now this is a religious fight? You do realize that in the Bible Cain kills his brother.........does this mean that by reading the bible I'm going to go right out and kill one of my brothers........same thing according to your line of thought. Here's the problem I see here, and it goes well beyond any game; For too long, the government has told us what we can and can't do because a few morons didn't want prayer in school, or because someone else gets easily offended by what's said about other things......well, in my mind, it's time for folks to quit whining and leave others alone to do their thing. I don't care if you like or don't like something I do. I'll do it anyway, and if you object, I'll do it even more!!!! I'm so sick and tired of everyone being so politicaly correct so as not to offend someone else.......I am the way that I am, and I don't give a **** what someone thinks. If I'm not breaking laws, then you've got no grounds for complaint. What kind of world is this when you have to be concerned with everyone else's feelings before speaking your mind........I've had enough, and this thread has just brought it all to the surface. we apparently have too many sensative folks here that get easily offended, so I'm now done with this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children it's now a proven fact that pornographic material often leads to rape. or, at least, those who love pornographic material are encouraged to fulfill their fantasys. do you suppose the same thought patterns could be transposed to this video?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] it's now a proven fact that pornographic material often leads to rape. or, at least, those who love pornographic material are encouraged to fulfill their fantasys. do you suppose the same thought patterns could be transposed to this video?... [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I have remained pretty much silent on this whole issue as I don't want to offend anyone but making a mockery of police officer dying..I mean more like making it a sport..a game...I can't believe this. Where do we draw the line? Sit back for one minute and think of this. God bless those children in the schools that have been murdered senselessly, but look how many copycat school shooting there were because these scumbags saw it played out in the media time after time after time, and they rehearsed it...like a game, over and over until they thought they had it right. Notice how many there were one after another?? How many recently? When this stuff occurs, and people see it, people copy it. Sad, but true. Look at the twin towers?? Didn't a kid fly a plane (cessna) into a building and die shortly after that?? This stuff causes people to imitate. You people who support the killing of police officers in video games, where do you draw the line? What if a video game comes out about postal workers...what about an active school shooter?? I would hope you would at least consider these over the line. Police offciers are always portrayed as being expendable. I knew that when I took this job 17 years ago. On TV, in movies, in stories, and now in video games, we are expendable. The "expendable" police officers are fathers, husbands, brothers and sons. Ask my childern and my wife if they feel I am expendable! Ask them how they feel about a video game that glorifies the killing of men just like their father and husband! My God people, can't you see that although our freedoms are terrific for people of a normal mentality, it also gives people with less desirable intentions the ability to slip undetected until their plan has been executed? I realize that the younger "gamers", feel that it is just a game, and for 99% it is. Its the 1%, that causes me to worry. Police Officers will more than likely suffer at the hands of criminals due to it being glorified in video games. This job gets harder and harder as the years go by...if it is not the media portraying us as villians when 1% of our ranks makes a mistake (which effects all of us), it is lawyers tying our hands so the guilty can go free on technicalities. Anyone that dares think this is an easy job try strapping on 15-20lbs of equipment and carrying that around day in and day out. How many of you are required to wear a kevlar (bulletproof) vest for 20 years? Day in and day out. Try dealing with lawyers and judges, DA's and the media every day. Will it happen?? Will I die at the hands of a lunatic? Probably not..hopefully not, but I never know. Day after day I leave my wife and kids and none of us really know. I could get killed by a drunk driver, I could get killed directing traffic, I could fall down a flight of stairs fighting with some turd, I could die during a pursuit trying to catch someone that violated YOU somehow. I am usually not the victim of a violent crime when a pursuit starts, it is someone else and I am trying to stop the person. Lawyers are trying to prevent us from stopping them though, unless THEY are the victim. I don't want to die for you..just like our soldiers, but I signed up for 20 years and will protect and serve, so you can enjoy your freedoms. I am not asking anyone to change their minds on this, or maybe I am, I'm not sure at this point. I guess I am just surprised at how much support a stupid freakin video game has over those of us willing to lay it on the line day after day, night after night. Ask my wife and kids...ask them, if I am expendable. Whew..there...got that off my chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children Swamphunter, first nobodies advocated the killing of police officers so dont try twisting it around like that.Funny cops have been getting shot in the movies and on TV by the hundreds for as far back as I can remember and there was never a big outcry to have it stopped.I can stop on any cable channel on any given night and watch a dozen cops get killed but you guys are upset about a video game hardly anyones gonna see and even less peole are gonna play.And once again Ill say it, children cant even buy. How far should we take it?Should we take all the cop killing out of the movies and off of every tv channel as well?Pull all the old DVDs of the shelf that contain cops being killed?Its your guys crusade, Im just wondering how far you wanna take it.Nobodies taking anything away from what you do but your talking reality vs. fantasy and acting like these are real cops getting killed in this game.Every example you gave was television, school shootings, 9-11, these were all on tv and real events people copied, not a video game.So why are we starting with this game and not the media or movies.People were all pissed off when they decided to stop showing the 9-11 tapes due to there content and thousands of people died in real life there.Now the same people are trying to ban a video game thats worst crime was maybe a blister on someones thumb and your acting like we all think cops are expendable.But your all worried about the way other people view reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] Swamphunter, first nobodies advocated the killing of police officers so dont try twisting it around like that.Funny cops have been getting shot in the movies and on TV by the hundreds for as far back as I can remember and there was never a big outcry to have it stopped.I can stop on any cable channel on any given night and watch a dozen cops get killed but you guys are upset about a video game hardly anyones gonna see and even less peole are gonna play.And once again Ill say it, children cant even buy. How far should we take it?Should we take all the cop killing out of the movies and off of every tv channel as well?Pull all the old DVDs of the shelf that contain cops being killed?Its your guys crusade, Im just wondering how far you wanna take it.Nobodies taking anything away from what you do but your talking reality vs. fantasy and acting like these are real cops getting killed in this game. Every example you gave was television, school shootings, 9-11, these were all on tv and real events people copied, not a video game.So why are we starting with this game and not the media or movies. People were all pissed off when they decided to stop showing the 9-11 tapes due to there content and thousands of people died in real life there.Now the same people are trying to ban a video game thats worst crime was maybe a blister on someones thumb and your acting like we all think cops are expendable.But your all worried about the way other people view reality [/ QUOTE ] Thank you Horst. This is exactly what I mean. I am not twisting anything. You can see what I mean that cops have been expendable in tv for years. I also said that I realized that when I took this job. A good friend of mine has PM'd me and made a couple of points... [ QUOTE ] IMO...Kids think a game is cool because they hear their friends say so...they beg their inattentive parents about how much they want the game....they get the game. Has nobody around this discussion ever heard about training videos in their line of work?????????? If those videos can train Adults...how much more can an impressionable child be swayed from what is right or wrong by a game that their friends say is cool...especially when they dont have the proper guides as parents?????? Kids are like undeveloped photo paper...waiting for a shutter to open to imprint them....Morally deficient games should not have that right. [/ QUOTE ] and Every example you gave was television, school shootings, 9-11, these were all on tv and real events people copied, not a video game.So why are we starting with this game and not the media or movies. [ QUOTE ] BTW.... Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold....."Imitated" the Movie "Matrix" in what they wore for clothing...but the movie had no influence right? [/ QUOTE ] Pay attention to the news - Link Makes a good point you must admit Horst? This will prbably be my last post on this issue because this is not worth me trying to get my point across, causing an arguement and getting banned. I have too many friends in here I would miss. You are entitled to your opinion Horst, as am I. That is what this country is founded on. Play the game, buy it for your kids, I don't care. It will not be allowed in my home. This is merely my opinion, as I am entitled to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children Have not really put much into this thread, but have been following it. While it is a game, and most adults do realize the difference in right and wrong and games and reality, some impressionable kids are not so clear minded. I personally cannot see where anyone would want their kids playing a life like game that is in a sense promoting doing things that are just not right. It is a shame that in todays world that kids learn how to act from tv and video games, but it is a fact of life, unlike 20-30 years ago when kids were more active as there really were not any realistic video games. I can remember when pong first came out, not hardly a violent promoting game. The times are changing and I think with more realistic games and more violence, kids with non-parenting parents are maybe being led in the wrong dircetion by this type of stuff. Unfortunately with so many other violent games out there banning this one game is probably not going to stop those "bad" kids or out of touch with reality idiots from doing what they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children This just popped up on the front page of Yahoo, so I thought I would throw this recent study in the mix.... Violent video games linked to risky behaviors By Anne Harding Fri Apr 7, 12:37 PM ET NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - After playing a violent video game, young men are more likely to think it's OK to smoke marijuana and drink alcohol, raising the possibility that exposure to violent media could negatively affect health-related behavior. ADVERTISEMENT "Parents have been told the message that violent video games and violent media in general can influence the likelihood that their kids will be aggressive," Dr. Sonya S. Brady, now at the University of California, San Francisco, told Reuters Health. "What this study suggests is that they might increase any type of risk-taking behavior." Brady and her colleague Dr. Karen A. Matthews at the University of Pittsburgh also found that young men were more likely to see others' attitudes toward them as hostile if they had just played a violent game. "You're kind of on the lookout for other people being rude to you," Brady said. Brady and Matthews had a group of 100 male undergraduates aged 18 to 21 play either Grand Theft Auto III or The Simpsons: Hit and Run. In the Simpsons game, players took the role of Homer Simpson and their task was to deliver daughter Lisa's science project to school before it could be marked late. In Grand Theft Auto III, players took the role of a criminal, and were instructed by the Mafia to beat up a drug dealer with a baseball bat. Playing the violent game boosted young men's blood pressures, and appeared to have more of an effect on those who came from more violent homes or communities, the researchers report in the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. In this game, Brady noted, the depiction of the violent task is quite realistic. "When they strike the person with the bat then the person crumples to the ground and a pool of blood starts to expand slowly underneath the body," she said. The more blows the player gives, the wider the pool of blood. For youth who had been previously exposed to real violence, Snyder added, the game may have seemed more real. Regardless of whether they grew up in a violent environment, the researchers found, young men who had played the violent game were less cooperative and more competitive in completing an assigned task with another person, compared to those who played the Simpsons game. They were also more likely to have permissive attitudes toward alcohol and marijuana use. After playing the game, study participants watched a scenario in which a teacher told a class he suspects some students of cheating on a test, and that while he is very disappointed in those who have cheated he is proud of those who did well. The teacher then asks to see "Billy" after class. The study participants were told to imagine themselves as Billy, and asked how likely it was that the teacher was going to accuse them of cheating. Students who'd played Grand Theft Auto were more likely to think they'd be accused of cheating. Brady urges parents to be aware of what sorts of video games their children are playing. And kids themselves, she adds, should understand that violent games can change the way they think. SOURCE: Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, April 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children And theres a post in the lounge right now about how realistic Deer hunting games are getting.Wonder how many of the same results youd get from people who just got done shooting deer on the tv all day.Guesse we wont know till the antis do a study of thier own on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] Kids are like undeveloped photo paper...waiting for a shutter to open to imprint them....Morally deficient games should not have that right. [/ QUOTE ] Then do not allow your children to see and play them. It has been said again and again but it is true. My children are still very young. Will they have a game??? No. I see, in many cases, not all, that games are a way for a parent to get out of being a mom or a dad and spending quality time with their children. How many people in the world sit their kid in front of the **** tube with a video controller for hours on end? Instead of reading, spending time outdoors or simply talking with their children this is happening all over North America. It is not the video games that we need to worry about, it is not the t.v programs we need to worry about. We need to worry about us. Have some of you forgotten that we are empowered to make our own decisions and that includes what things to teach our kids and surely what video games to buy. I'm with Horst and Vtbowhunter on this thread. Do I like the idea of the game? Absolutely not but banning it is not the answer. Being responsible parents is. Food for thought. Many things can wait. The child cannot, his body is developing, his mind is developing. He cannot wait, his time is now. With this in mind, ask yourself how may children right now are waiting in front of the video game b/c mom and dad are too busy for them. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children Problem is too many parents will not parent their children, and the children are left making their own decisions. So when the fantasy game teaches them to blow away your wife and kids in the grocery store parking lot because it is cool and the kids parents were too busy at work or were just plain dead beats and they were unaware of what their kids were doing, it is not in any way the games fault for promoting this type of behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children Wtn, the kids cant even buy the game, somewhere theres still got to an adult involved or anyone under 18 cant play it.The games already legally regulated. You guys are trying to tell me that a video game needs more regulations then alcohol, tobacco, or firearms combined.That doesnt even make sense, these things kill millions every year and are available to almost anyone over a certain age..In essense you all are saying the government should have absolute power to ban anything that could be even remotely dangerous. And how is it we can recruit 18 and 19 year old kids to go fight a war in some god forsaken dessert but can then tell them their to impressionable to buy a video game with violent content in it. I know the games in bad taste, and Im sure a lot of you are offended by it, but theres no logical reason to ban it.It may kill someone, but then again the car sitting in your driveway may kill someone as well, nobody can predict the future but nobodies lobbying to take your car away either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] Then do not allow your children to see and play them. It has been said again and again but it is true. My children are still very young. Will they have a game??? No. [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure you are not referring directly to me...as an individual, implying that I would allow this crap in my home. My son plays one video game and it is Deer Hunter 2005, with myself and Buckee. The only computer games that are allowed in my home are educational ones that teach the use of a computer or math or spelling, since computer use is required in the school district that my children attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children swamphunter, I'm not referring to you as an individual, just a generalization for parents who throw their kid in front of the xbox instead of being a parent. I can honestly say that throughout this debate their is one person who is SMASHING the nail on the head and i'd like to sit down for a beer with him b/c he, in my books, knows what is is talking about and that is Horst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] Wtn, the kids cant even buy the game, somewhere theres still got to an adult involved or anyone under 18 cant play it.The games already legally regulated. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, your right Chris, but kids do trade games at school, and some kids get what they want, their "parents" just dont care, they will buy them anything to shut thm up. I dont see my kids ever having any interest in games like that anyway, so a ban will not effect whether they would ever see or play such. Real shame here is that we are even discussing this because there are in fact so many dead beats or out of touch with their children "parents" out there. I am not so sure regulation or banning is really the answer either Chris, but not sure what else can make people more attentive to what their kids are doing. Like you say, violent games are obviously not the only problem out there, but I am pretty sure they are not good for some of those weak minded people who have trouble with discerning reality and fantasy and whether any of us like it or not so long as this type of stuff is out there a kid somehwere who is impressionable is playing this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] And how is it we can recruit 18 and 19 year old kids to go fight a war in some god forsaken dessert but can then tell them their to impressionable to buy a video game with violent content in it. [/ QUOTE ] How is it we can send 18-19 years old to war, but they can't buy alcohol, becuase they are to immature to be respossible enough to drink it, but we as citizens say they are responsible enough to buy violent games,,, now there's a double standard if I ever saw one.... It would be great if all parents were responsible and took responsibility for their children, but we know that's not going to happen... I for one hate to blame a video game for violence, but it appears the studies show it to be true... So if we don't do something about these types of games,,, then I ask, what's the solution to bettering the quality of our society ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] Nope, your right Chris, but kids do trade games at school, and some kids get what they want, their "parents" just dont care, they will buy them anything to shut thm up. I dont see my kids ever having any interest in games like that anyway, so a ban will not effect whether they would ever see or play such [/ QUOTE ] Honestly my kids have a nintendo gamecube and just a few games for it.I like playing games but seldom do it and I dont let my kids sit and play them for long either.It doesnt affect me any more then it does you.But the next thing they decide is dangerous and should be "banned for our own good" could very well affect me, and you. [ QUOTE ] How is it we can send 18-19 years old to war, but they can't buy alcohol, becuase they are to immature to be respossible enough to drink it, but we as citizens say they are responsible enough to buy violent games,,, now there's a double standard if I ever saw one.... [/ QUOTE ] But we will turn em lose with a car at 16 A lotta states turn em lose with a gun at 14, some states are younger some older but average age is around 14 They can buy tobacco at 18 They can walk into a theatre at 18 and watch any type of content from PG to XXX They can squander money they dont have gambling at 18 And theres more but you get the idea.These things except for maybe gambling kill far more people every year then there are police shot in the United States.So what else should we ban to make you feel warm and safe at night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Nope, your right Chris, but kids do trade games at school, and some kids get what they want, their "parents" just dont care, they will buy them anything to shut thm up. I dont see my kids ever having any interest in games like that anyway, so a ban will not effect whether they would ever see or play such [/ QUOTE ] Honestly my kids have a nintendo gamecube and just a few games for it.I like playing games but seldom do it and I dont let my kids sit and play them for long either.It doesnt affect me any more then it does you.But the next thing they decide is dangerous and should be "banned for our own good" could very well affect me, and you. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah Chris, my kids have a playstation 2, they really dont play it much though, the most played game is probably dangerous hunts, they play more when the weather is not so good and they are couped up in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: VIDEO Games/MIND Food for children [ QUOTE ] So what else should we ban to make you feel warm and safe at night? [/ QUOTE ] Not a single thing,,, I feel pretty safe,,, walk into my home at night un-announced, and it's light's out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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