BowJoe Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 If people don't think it's a dangerous dog then it's just a waste of time making sense to you. Read on!!!http://www.thesouthern.com/articles/2006/04/02/top/10006138.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! Straight from the article. "It's a terrible situation," he said. "But it's not the breed. It was an incident." Read the whole article, the one dog attacked and the other didnt. It is not the breed. It is mostly on how the dogs are raised and stereotyped by so many people. Not every pit bull is a killer dog, but everyone thinks so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! as a breed, the pits are more likely to be aggressive. a poodle may bite, but just numeracilally, the pit bulls are the most dangerous. they were bred to be aggressive. simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! [ QUOTE ] as a breed, the pits are more likely to be aggressive. a poodle may bite, but just numeracilally, the pit bulls are the most dangerous. they were bred to be aggressive. simple as that [/ QUOTE ] A lot of dog breeds were bred to be aggressive. Doesnt make them all killers or even vicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! But not all dogs are as well equipped and have the combination tempermant and physique as this particular breed. I am not saying that no one should own these dogs. I am simply saying that only responsible people should. If it takes registering all dogs to evaluate which ones are ok and not okay then so be it. I think you should have to register these dogs particularly and if an incident occurs or a pitbull is seen and not registered then he will be taken away and euthanized unless registeration occurs immediately and the dog is quarantined. I also think that the registration process should involve a temperment test. If the dog is aggressive in your own house or yard then he should be euthanized. What if it were your child that was attacked. If you think these measures are unreasonable then try feeling what that little girl and thousands of children a year will feel for the rest of their lives. It's not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! I was friends with a guy in 8th grade whose father was a pit bull breeder. They had 11 pits at the house and they were some of the most dosile, loving and loyal dogs I've ever seen. They obeyed every command and would even allow you to take the rawhide bones directly from their mouths. From my experience with these dogs I have learned that pit bulls aren't a problem, irresponsible pit bull owners are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! [ QUOTE ] My wife had a large pitbull when we got married. He was a very gental loving dog. He was never conditioned to fight or attack. We had our daughter around him (closely supervised) and never had any problems. One day we were taking him for a walk and came across another couple walking a small dog maybe a yorky or shitzu or something like that. The two dogs did the whole sniffing thing and everything seemed good. Then CD, our dog, reached down and grabbed this poor little pooch and started shaking it like a rag doll. I tried to get him to let it go and ended up beating the snot out of him before he let go. He turned toward me and I had a 20oz pop bottle and shoved it into his mouth and held it there untill he calmed down. It was a mericle that the dog wasn't seriously injured. After this incedent I never let my daughter around him again and kept him chained up. I still loved on him and gave him attention. When he died (of natural causes) I was saddened, but knew I would never own one again. The fact of the matter is that these dogs are bread to be aggressive fighting or killing animals. All the love and pampering will make for a very friendly killing machine IMO. I'll never have another pit. [/ QUOTE ] Pits are not bad dogs by nature, but they are aggressive by nature and well equipt by carefull breading to take full advatage of their aggressive nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! One of the places I deer hunt has 2 pit bulls. The one is the nicest most submissive dog I've seen in quite a while. The other one you don't want to get anywhere close to, he's mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! [ QUOTE ] One of the places I deer hunt has 2 pit bulls. The one is the nicest most submissive dog I've seen in quite a while. The other one you don't want to get anywhere close to, he's mean. [/ QUOTE ] That's true with all breeds. My grandparents used to have 3 dachsunds. 2 were nice as can be, but one hated everybody, and I mean everybody! The 3rd one was the single most vicious dog I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! [ QUOTE ] I have learned that pit bulls aren't a problem, irresponsible pit bull owners are. [/ QUOTE ] I agree Racksie, if the owner mistreats the dog, or brings it up to be protective, that's the way the dog will be. If it is brought up in a good enviornment with lots of love for it, the dog will be fine, same as any other breed of dog. People do single out the pits to be vicious, which some of them are. I can't say that I'm not weary and cautious when I get near one. That's for darn sure. But a lot of them are great dogs and family pets, they just have to be brought up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! Im not a breeder or a trainer so maybe I shouldn't draw any conclusions.... but I will say this Im not willing to bet life and limb as to weather the dog is dosile or not, if it wonders into my safe zone all I can honestly say is bye,bye..... maybe Im just a bad person.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! Like I said in an earlier post... I think these dogs only belong with responsible owners. If you buy a dog to be mean then that's what these dope smoking ganster wannabe's are gonna get. Do you think they have the means or the insurance to cover your child if it gets mauled and has permanant damage? Just keep them out of the hands of idiots and the problem will definately reduce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! A little description and history on the breed. Taken from: bulldogbreeds.com [ QUOTE ] Description: Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receive. A common question regarding the APBT is, "How is this breed different from the American Staffordshire Terrier?". In the eyes of the United Kennel Club, they are the same breed, but many disagree. Some AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terriers are dual-registered as American Pit Bull Terriers with the UKC; however, this draws criticism from many who point out that the bloodlines have been separate for too long for these to be considered the same breed. The AKC, on the other hand, does not allow a UKC-registered American Pit Bull Terrier to be registered as an American Staffordshire Terrier. To be dual-registered, the dog must first be an AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terrier and then it can be registered with the UKC as an APBT -- but not vice versa... Choose from a responsible breeder and make sure the puppy is properly socialized and handled. Solid training will produce a tranquil, good, obedient, companion dog. History/Origin: His ancestors were brought to the Unites States in the mid - 1800's by Boston-Irish immigrants. Originally bred from a variety of bulldogs and terriers, American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog. Bull baiting was banned in England in 1835 and these dogs are no longer been bred to fights. There is some complication in registries of this breed. The AKC considers the American Staffordshire Terrier as separate and distinct from the American Pit Bull Terrier, yet the UKC will register both as American Pit Bull Terriers (APBTs). In America, the Pit Bull flourished. It was one of the most popular breeds, highly prized by a wide variety of people. The Pit Bull was used to represent the US in WW1 artwork; popular companies like RCA and the Buster Brown Shoe Company used the breed as their mascots. A Pit Bull named Petie starred in the popular children's television series, Our Gang; a Pit Bull mix named Stubby became a decorated WW1 hero. Pit Bulls accompanied pioneer familes on their explorations. Laura Ingalls Wilder of the popular Little House books owned a working Pit Bulldog named Jack. Famous individuals like Theodore Roosevelt and Helen Keller owned the breed. It was during this time that the Pit Bull truly became America?s sweetheart breed, admired, respected and loved. In 1898 the United Kennel Club was formed with the express intent of providing registration and fighting guidelines for the now officially-named American Pit Bull Terrier. Later, those who wished to distance themselves from the fighting aspect of the breed petitioned the American Kennel Club for recognition of the Pit Bull so that it would be eligible for dog shows and other performance events. The AKC conceded in 1936 but only under the stipulation that the dogs registered with them be called "Staffordshire Terriers", the name of the province in England the breed supposedly originated in. Upon acceptance of the breed, many people dual-registered their dogs with both the AKC and the UKC. Lucenay's Peter (the dog that starred in the Our Gang series) was the first dual-registered Pit Bull/Staffordshire Terrier. The UKC evolved, eventually beginning to register other working-type breeds, and later holding shows similar to those of the AKC. Currently, the UKC is the second largest purebred dog registry in the United States, complete with strict bylaws that ban anyone who is convicted of dog fighting. The American Dog Breeders Association was formed in 1909 because of certain fanciers' opinions that the UKC was not doing it's job protecting and preserving the Pit Bull breed as they felt it should be preserved. The ADBA's goal is the same now is at was then: to register, promote and preserve the original American Pit Bull Terrier fighting-type dog. The AKC eventually closed it's studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. They allowed registration only to those dogs with parents registered as Staffordshire Terriers. For a short period in the 1970's, the AKC reopened its studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. In 1973 the AKC added the prefix "American" to the breed's name in an effort to distinguish it from the newly recognized Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Today, only those dogs with AmStaff parents are eligible for registration. Both the UKC and the ADBA allow registration of AmStaffs, but in these organizations the dogs carry the original name, "American Pit Bull Terrier." Today the Pit Bull has evolved into a marvelous working and companion dog, used for purposes as varied as those it originally performed. Pit Bulls are employed as police/armed services dogs, search and rescuers, therapy animals, and livestock workers. They compete in all manner of organized dog sports, from herding to agility to conformation to obedience and the bite sports like Schutzhund and French Ring. They make loving pets for children and seniors, and everyone in between. The are indeed one of the most versatile breeds on the planet. Much of this is owed to the activities it once performed. The harshness and physical demands of the activities molded a strong, healthy, stable animal, one anyone should be proud to own. Category: Terrier Registries: UCA, UKC, ADBA, CKC, [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Re: Speaking of PitBulls!!! What you guys are discussing here is "almost" the exact same argument as gun ownership.............. In the wrong hands both are lethal. My American Bulldog is 1/4 Pitt.............never had or even seen a more intelligent dog. But, if you showed up at my door. You'd risk the chance of becoming Hamburger. That's her job...... If it was a FIVE year old, the child would soon grow weary of playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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