Guest Finn Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Over a treestand. That is not like any hunter I've ever met. Thoughts and prayers out for those families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntn4bucks Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Man, that just ain't right!!! Here's a link to the story on CNN: Five hunters gunned down in Wisconsin woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Actually if you think about it how many armed men do you run into out hunting every year?Somebody comes towards you in the woods carrying a gun they can usualy walk right up to you and its the only place that it doesnt look outta place.Hunters would actually be pretty easy targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters I heard that too. That sob needs to be shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rhinodog Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters [ QUOTE ] The weapon used is of little consequence, but while were on the subject… The SKS 7.62 (.308) is comparable to the M-14, A 7.62mm semi-automatic carbine with an effective range of 400 meters, the SKS has a 10 round integral magazine and an ROF of 30-35 rounds per minute. The SKS resembles a conventional semi auto rifle but is equipped with an integral folding bayonet under the muzzle. Used extensively by the Vietcong, it weighed 3.86kg, had a length of 1020mm and a muzzle velocity of 735m per second. This is what the “anti’s” have been waiting for, a killing with a previously banned weapon. Until the “assault weapons ban” was lifted a few weeks ago, you could not buy this weapon unless you had it before the ban. But why was it banned? It had a bayonet lug, that’s it. This could have been easily done with any number of “better” weapons, like any modern Rem, Win, semi auto hunting rifles. But back to the story, IMO there is something more to this guy, then just some nut out killing people. I would say he is wanted for something fo the sort. I don’t know how they do it up north, but if that had happened down here in the south, after the 1st guy was shot, all talk would be threw, and the lead would be flying. I mean, the guy took down 5 armed hunters, and shot 3 more. Why would you try to reason with this person? My prayers to the family and friends of the victims. ReCoN [/ QUOTE ] Actually, it's ballistically comparable to a 30-30. Almost identical. A .308 is much more powerful. My thoughts and prayers go to this family as well. I hope this guy gets the chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters I just read about this on yahoo news. I dont know what to say besides that is the must insane thing that I have ever heard pertaining to deer hunting. That guy better get the death penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters [ QUOTE ] I don’t know how they do it up north, but if that had happened down here in the south, after the 1st guy was shot, all talk would be threw, and the lead would be flying. I mean, the guy took down 5 armed hunters, and shot 3 more. Why would you try to reason with this person? [/ QUOTE ] I know the people I hunt with wouldn't take the time to try an reason either. It should have been obvious that this person was way past the reasoning stage. My heart felt prayers go out to the victims and their family and friends. On this morning's news I heard that a father and son were two of the people killed, I can't imagine how painful this is for the mother. If anything good can come out of this, I think the hunter's not shooting back should go to show that the majority of hunters aren't the blood thirsty killers that they are sometimes made out to be. Just a shame that this ever happened in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters I haven't even heard whether this nut-case was actually a hunter, with a valid hunting license or just a crack-pot, out to poke holes in something. How terrible for the families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Heard a little about it on cnn as I was walking out the door this morning. Was supposedly a dispute over a hunitng blind or something. Hope the sick idiot who killed them gets swift justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Saw that on MSNBC- "common hunting weapon"? Yeah, right! I have yet to see anyone deer hunting with an SKS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters they should give him the death penalty But in this lame society that we have these days, i doubt if it would happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Apparently those going to help didn't know what they were getting into. Apparently there was one gun between teh 8 victims. Worse, some were shot multiple times, and he supposedly went around finish off the survivors until he ran out of ammo. Thats the latest news report anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo_buck Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters [ QUOTE ] Saw that on MSNBC- "common hunting weapon"? Yeah, right! I have yet to see anyone deer hunting with an SKS!!!! [/ QUOTE ] I saw several people hunting with SKS's last fall in Kentucky..... I have had one or two of them in the past. They are very inexpensive deer or coyote guns.... It wasn't the gun that killed these people it was the jerk shooting it.... I believe a baseball bat in the hands of a madman could also be considered an "assault weapon". Let's not let what kind of gun he used devide us. It was the jerk pulling the trigger we should be upset about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters 00 Buck- You're exactly right, it doesn't matter if he used a 9mm or a shotgun! THe guy's a whacko. But, I was just commenting on the media stating that it was a COMMON hunting weapon! Where I come from, a bolt-action .30-06 or a lever action .30-.30 is common! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo_buck Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Yeah, I know. Here we are Slug Gun or Muzzle loader only...... But I lost count of how many people in KY were deer hunting with them last fall..... Funny how the areas differ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters [ QUOTE ] Funny how the areas differ... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that is interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY911Bowhunter Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Another black eye for ethical hunters...it just keeps getting worse... I feel for families of the MURDERED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters The SKS was never on the AWB, I knew people who bought them while the AWB was in affect, I owned one, I have heard of people hunting with them but I never hunted with mine. The only thing was you couldn't buy the SKS with the bayonet, which, when I bought mine back in 94 , mine came with a bayonet, I took it off, no use for it, but I don't have the SKS anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY911Bowhunter Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Stereotypes.........cant say them anymore publically in regards to race...that would be horrible..... Some peopel just do NOT have any idea..... I have never felt so back against the wall as a hunter as I have this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters It is really sad to lose some of our fellow outdoorsmen(and women) to a lunatic. Prayers and thoughts for the their families. It is easy to type what you might do if this occured to you. I can honestly say I do not know what I would do until that moment happened. I just hope I would do something to help my friends and family that was there with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Shooter Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters wow thats nuts....and scarey..i wander what his motive is anyways ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birddog Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters Guys- this was not someone set out to kill hunters this is a member of the Hmong community who many claim don't understand English...this makes me so mad because we issue these people hunting licenses and then they claim "I can't speak English" when they break the law! The Hmong population has been caught breaking the law all over MN, ND and WI...and they constantly play the "me no speak English" card! MN has even brought in Hmong C.O.'s to translate and try to better relate. The article says that Vang speaks "English Very Well". Then he knew he was asked to leave. I don't understand how we can allow these people to come to our state and give them everything they need to survive and then allow them into the woods where they kill hunters. I realize this is an exaggeration as not all foreginers are like this however it upsets me. This is purely an act of terrorism. Treat this person no better than an al' queda member. This person has terrorized the hunting community making us all think twice about asking someone to leave our private property. I think the Immigration service needs to start looking at this as an act of terror. It upsets me and it should upset all of us. I don't understand how this guy can recieve a hunting license if he claims to not be able to understand English. MN puts out a newspaper called the Outdoor News and last week their was an article about the hmong CO, and I am sickend that in America we need to find jobs for people just so a "language barrier" can be dealt with. It's America speak our language or do not ask for a dam thing. I don't mean to ruffle feathers this is not necessarily a race issue at all...but come on guys, it's AMERICA if you want to enjoy it, play by the rules! My prayers and thoughts go out to all the families affected by this tragedy..but don't EVER call Mr. Vang a hunter to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunters [ QUOTE ] It's America speak our language or do not ask for a dam thing [/ QUOTE ] I hear ya. We have the same thing here. Now they publish teh hunting reg's in chinese so they can't play the language game. If you ask me speaking the official language of a country should be a criteria to get in. I really don't know that that has much to do with this incident though. I have heard about the problems down there, but though you may have a poaching problem with them, i think it is unfair to portray the whole race as likely killers. This is one mass murderer. How is using his race to portray all members of that race in a bad way any different than the media trying to use this to make all hunters look bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-KS Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunter What a sick a-hole! As soon as he entered that land, he was a poacher. If he was a hunter, he certainly wasn't at the time of the shooting. May the dead rest in peace, and the wounded recover fully. I can't imagine what their families are thinking right now. P.S. David, I know of a couple people who use SKSs to hunt deer with. With the right bullets, they're a good short range 30 Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Some sick SOB is killing Wisconsin deer hunter I just read an associated press report that said he was a hunter and that he was using an SKS 7.62 rifle and they qouted someone as saying that this was a common weapon that is used in hunting. This person is not a hunter and I don't believe that the wepon is normal for hunting. Some people have no clue as to what they are talking about. I do hope that they prosecute this person and give him the highest sentence possible as this was a senseless and cowardly act. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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