slugshooter Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Not sure if any of you have heard, but I read online the other day about how Afghani's that have been hired to work as cleaners and other types of manual labor on Bagram Air Base have been stealing items from offices, most importantly, flash memory sticks containing sensitive data. Not necessarily Top Secret, but sensitive nonetheless. Apparently they have been selling these items in bazaars set up right outside the gates of the base to anyone with the money to buy them. Some of the info on these memory drives are informant identities as well as other sensitive military information. Well, I read in the paper today that our own US Government is going through these markets and BUYING BACK U.S. Government property that was stolen. I have a very serious problem with this on 2 levels, 1) The person who the drive belonged to ought to be fired for leaving this stuff out in the open for someone to steal in the first place, and 2) Why in the name of all that is holy and just are we buying back stuff stolen from us. If it were you and I the Feds would have busted down our doors right now and we would currently be awaiting our sentence in some God-forsaken Federal Penitentiary right now. I say we take a few dozen soldiers and clear out every market and take back what is rightfully ours and has been stolen. Then, throw the merchants in prison. Just my 2-cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! They are taking the expedient route instead of the most effective but also more costly aproach you advocate. Personaly I agree with you, but I gotta ask, your proposal is exactly what Bush is doing on a larger scale with the situation over there, why if you advocate this do you not support the rest of the action. These buyouts are a perfect picture of the Democrat concept of how to end the war...appeasment of the insurgents and withdrawal of troops before the job is finalized and the new government is secure enough to stand on its own. It works in the short term but does not end the problem, just prolongs it, and potentialy feeds it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! [ QUOTE ] If it were you and I the Feds would have busted down our doors right now and we would currently be awaiting our sentence in some God-forsaken Federal Penitentiary right now. I say we take a few dozen soldiers and clear out every market and take back what is rightfully ours and has been stolen. Then, throw the merchants in prison. [/ QUOTE ] It's Afghanistan. The US has no authority to clear out market places and arrest people in a foreign country. They are not the Law in Afghanistan. Looks like they have to play the game by street rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! Did you read the part about what they are doing with the GI's that are handling sensitive info incorrectly? I thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! [ QUOTE ] Not sure if any of you have heard, but I read online the other day about how Afghani's that have been hired to work as cleaners and other types of manual labor on Bagram Air Base have been stealing items from offices, most importantly, flash memory sticks containing sensitive data. Not necessarily Top Secret, but sensitive nonetheless. [/ QUOTE ] I can tell you that it is very true. I was at a conference all last week in New Orleans and it had a lot to do with classified material. One of the things they hit on was that very same subject and it has happened and the DOD is currently working on a solution. That's about all I can tell you. I will advise you though to believe half of what you read in the papers and see on the news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Goose Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! [ QUOTE ] That's about all I can tell you. [/ QUOTE ] or what... you'll have to kill us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! Heard something about this on the news the other day. [ QUOTE ] I will advise you though to believe half of what you read in the papers and see on the news [/ QUOTE ] Was always told to believe none of what you hear and only part of what you see. Seems like a pretty good rule of thumb here. Steve also makes a good point that this is in Afghanistan, not here in the states. Bet it might be handled considerably differently here at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! stopping the pilfering on our property should be job 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If it were you and I the Feds would have busted down our doors right now and we would currently be awaiting our sentence in some God-forsaken Federal Penitentiary right now. I say we take a few dozen soldiers and clear out every market and take back what is rightfully ours and has been stolen. Then, throw the merchants in prison. [/ QUOTE ] It's Afghanistan. The US has no authority to clear out market places and arrest people in a foreign country. They are not the Law in Afghanistan. Looks like they have to play the game by street rules. [/ QUOTE ] Here's the thing Steve. First off, a military base, regardless of country, is considered US soil and therefore under US jurisdiction. These items are stolen US government property taken from US soil so IMHO they should be able to arrest whoever they want. As far as not being able to arrest anyone on foreign soil, where are they getting all these prisioners that they are filling Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and the dozens of other prisons they currently have in the middle east? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Could someone please explain this!!!! [ QUOTE ] Here's the thing Steve. First off, a military base, regardless of country, is considered US soil and therefore under US jurisdiction. These items are stolen US government property taken from US soil so IMHO they should be able to arrest whoever they want. As far as not being able to arrest anyone on foreign soil, where are they getting all these prisioners that they are filling Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and the dozens of other prisons they currently have in the middle east? [/ QUOTE ] I imagine if they caught someone on the base they would have jurisdiction, but not off the base in the open market. They're not at war with the country there, so they have to watch their step, regardless. I don't think they been pulling folks off the street and throwing them in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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