Texan_Til_I_Die Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 So we have two indictments from the Grand Jury and probably a third forthcoming. Does anyone get the impression that something isn't quite right here? That maybe we're seeing a rush to judgement in the indictments of these two young men? Here's what I find unusual about this case. First, everyone who was asked to supply a DNA sample did so willingly. The first set of DNA tests did not reveal a match. More, supposedly better, tests are being conducted. All of the people present have cooperated completely with the police when asked for interviews or statements. All of them have volunteered to take a polygraph. The accuser has a past history of criminal conduct. There is video evidence that was taken prior to her arrival at the party that supposedly shows the accuser with cuts and bruises she claims occurred during the rape. The accuser did not immediately report the rape. When police found her, she was apparently intoxicated and passed out. All of this plus the fact that it's an election year for the local DA and he's under a tremendous amount of pressure to "do something" from the local black community, adds up to a big red flag to me. Maybe they're guilty, maybe not. But I don't think the DA is handling this like he would other cases of a similar nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations so far, this is a pretty ugly story from a desperate da. hope it turns sour on him. i think the dna results said it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations I'll give you a North Carolina perspective. Whenever you turn on the TV, this is all you hear about, from every station. Interviews with family members, this and that. To me, the DNA kinda disproves the whole thing IMO. TTID, not sure if you heard or not, but there is a rumor that the Durham police have been acting, shall we say, unscrupulously. There is a report that a "bait" e-mail was sent from one of the players computers to the whole team that said "I know what you did, I'm going to the police." The only problem is that the student whose e-mail account was used was in class at the time, wonder who sent it? This whole thing stinks to me, and it smells even worse now that his holiness the Rev. Jackson has gotten involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] This whole thing stinks to me, and it smells even worse now that his holiness the Rev. Jackson has gotten involved. [/ QUOTE ] Had not heard yet that he was involved in this, but I guess that is no great surprise. Something about it, not sure what it is, but something about this story just doesnt seem quite right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations I just hope the justice system can prevail in the proper manner. I don't think that will happen though. It sure seems like they are finding them guilty before a trial. Cancel their entire season. Why, what have they been proven guilty of? If they are guilty I hope they throw the book at them. If it comes out they are not guilty and we do find out she was lying I hope she gets 46 maximum sentences for what she has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn57 Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations I just heard on the news that the 2 players were not even at the party when they say the rape took place. One was in a cab and stopped by the ATM and had his picture taken and the other was out eating dinner. I just think that the girl is lying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nature_Boy Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations I hope they get to the bottom of this. And I hope that woever is responsible is dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. That would be only fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations As far as Jesse Jackson being involved, he hasn't come out so much as far as believing the womans story, basically, what he has done is said that his Rainbow/Push coalition will pay this womans college tuition in full, no matter the outcome of the case. The justification being that she will not have to degrade herself by being a stripper in order to pay for school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] The justification being that she will not have to degrade herself by being a stripper in order to pay for school. [/ QUOTE ] Was someone making her degrade yherself to start with?Lotsa people go to college every year without stripping to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations And what does it say for the good reverend and his Monochrome Push Coalition if the woman's charges turn out to be totaly false? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] And what does it say for the good reverend and his Monochrome Push Coalition if the woman's charges turn out to be totaly false? [/ QUOTE ] Kind of wondering how Jackson will handle his self if her charges are in fact false. Will he drop it quickly or try to make allegations of corruption in the judicial system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted April 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations That's a good question. If it does turn out that this is another Tawana Brawley Hoax type case, we'll have to resurrect this thread and discuss the Rev. Jackson's handling of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations The pictures are going to be a big factor as well as the dna results. Why this girl would choose to cry rape if it didn't really happen, is beyond me. There is absolutely no excuse for a guy to rape a girl/woman. HOWEVER..........when you are taking off your clothes in front of a bunch of DRUNK teenage guys......you are basically putting yourself in that position. I think it's gonna be very difficult for the prosecutors in this case though. There sure seems to be a lot of holes in their theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations this girl is crying rape to win a big future lawsuit from the "rich boys". that's what this thing is really all about. and this da should be ashamed of himself. oh yea, he's an attornet. they don't lear shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] HOWEVER..........when you are taking off your clothes in front of a bunch of DRUNK teenage guys......you are basically putting yourself in that position. [/ QUOTE ] That is kinda a key point that I think is going to have her claims nullified even if she was forced. Rape is wrong no doubt, and if in fact the boys are guilty they should get what they deserve, but she never should have put herself in that position in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] this girl is crying rape to win a big future lawsuit from the "rich boys". that's what this thing is really all about. and this da should be ashamed of himself. oh yea, he's an attornet. they don't lear shame. [/ QUOTE ] Your right steve. I was doing a little research and found that the average incom of Durham is much lower than 1 years tuition at Duke. Needless to say there are very few people in the town that make s much as a year at duke costs, I hope that makes sence. So what I am getting at is I think the girl and the DA want to make the town think that these boys can do what they want due to economic status and get away with it. To me thats just wrong. The DA is a dink just as much as Jesse Jackson. I hope his case falls through and the whole thing bites him in the azz. I have seen no evidence to even consider charging the boys with. The DNA didn't match, the pictures with the time and the credit card reciept from the restaurant should save the two that are on the hook right now. I just don't like anything about this case and I believe I smell a rat somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations Interesting..................the girl's father has now told the media the details of his daughter's rape. If it happened the way he says.........then it can very easily be proved I would think. Also......I can't see ANYONE making that up and wanting to go to trial and give those kind of details. I am refraining from saying exactly what her father said. Just don't know if we should be discussing that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Re: Duke Lacrosse Rape Allegations [ QUOTE ] I am refraining from saying exactly what her father said. Just don't know if we should be discussing that here. [/ QUOTE ] Thank ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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