Guest Andrea Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Just got this in an email: Can't figure out how to post the pic that came with it. It's a pic of Cindy Sheehan with Chavez's arm around her. Cindy Sheehan & Chavez Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. Government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century." The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world." Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal! The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co. Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government. Take Action Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government? Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popgun Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! According to U.S. Department of Energy records for 2005, BP, Chevron, Conoco, Exxon Mobil, and Valero, to name but a few, all bought crude oil imported from Venezuela. If you use gasoline at all, you can't help but put some of your money in Hugo Chávez's pocket. How often do we walk? ....popgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] According to U.S. Department of Energy records for 2005, BP, Chevron, Conoco, Exxon Mobil, and Valero, to name but a few, all bought crude oil imported from Venezuela. If you use gasoline at all, you can't help but put some of your money in Hugo Chávez's pocket. How often do you walk? ....popgun [/ QUOTE ] What a rip. Maybe we should just all do like the Amish and drive horse drawn buggies. Is this the same guy that Pat Robertson suggested we assassinate??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! I have long advocated the overthrow of that idiot el Presidente de Venezuela Hugo Chavez, and if I thought boycotting Citgo brand gas would accomplish that, I'd be leading the parade. But they apparantly have plenty of other markets besides the U.S. for their petroleum and theres no way to tell where many of the independent stations get their gas. A boycott might however have the effect of running your local convenience store out of business. As to Cindy Sheehan and Chavez being buddies, of course they would be natural allies since they are both strongly Anti-American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! Saw on the news the other day that gas in Venezuela was like $.20 a gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! The main factor in price disparities between countries is government policy. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline. In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens. Prices for some countries from last March. Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48 Norway Oslo $6.27 Italy Milan $5.96 Denmark Copenhagen $5.93 Belgium Brussels $5.91 Sweden Stockholm $5.80 United Kingdom London $5.79 Germany Frankfurt $5.57 France Paris $5.54 Portugal Lisbon $5.35 Hungary Budapest $4.94 Luxembourg $4.82 Croatia Zagreb $4.81 Ireland Dublin $4.78 Switzerland Geneva $4.74 Spain Madrid $4.55 Japan Tokyo $4.24 Czech Republic Prague $4.19 Romania Bucharest $4.09 Andorra $4.08 Estonia Tallinn $3.62 Bulgaria Sofia $3.52 Brazil Brasilia $3.12 Cuba Havana $3.03 Taiwan Taipei $2.84 Lebanon Beirut $2.63 South Africa Johannesburg $2.62 Nicaragua Managua $2.61 Panama Panama City $2.19 Russia Moscow $2.10 Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74 Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91 Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78 Egypt Cairo $0.65 Nigeria Lagos $0.38 Venezuela Caracas $0.12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! I certainly share the same feelings for Hugo Chavez that Texan_Til_I_Die has but there's not really any reliable way to figure out where all the imported oil goes that we get from Venezuela. At the end of 2005, US production was at the lowest point since the late 1940s (4.86 million b/d) and imports accounted for 67% of total consumption. Imports from Venezuela totaled 11% of those imports. That crude goes right to refineries that get their imported crude oil through ports alongthe Gulf of Mexico. Some Venezuelan crude also goes to the refinery in St. Croix. There's really no telling anymore where your gas really comes from. Here's a quote from the EIA (Energy Information Administration) "For several reasons, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot definitively say where gasoline at a given station originated: 1. EIA does not collect data on the source of the gasoline sold at retail outlets. 2. The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company's refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are “unbranded” dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are “branded” stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company's refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. 3. Even if we knew at which company's refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! We put the Citgo in my hometown of Benton, IL out of business. Took no time at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! When I first read the chain e-mail going around with Sheehan and Chavez, I was ready to not spend another dime at Citgo gas stations. Here's a couple thoughts I have on this Citgo boycott. One, a boycott won't make much of a difference because from what I have been reading, not all Citgo gas comes from Venezuelan oil and from what I have been reading, basically, all the oil companies basically share gas and the only thing different between Citgo gas and Exxon gas is some additives that they might put into the fuel before it hits the distributors. Two, an American boycott wouldn't, if successful, wouldn't harm Chavez in any way, why, because there are plenty of other countries buying Citgo gas, and also, what happens if the boycott is remotely successful in this country, what happens then, the only thing that will happen then is a lot of American workers out of jobs. Citgo gas is still refined in Houston, TX, how many people work at a refinery, that's a lot of jobs, not to mention the other thousands who work in the stores who would be jobless if every Citgo in the U.S. was shut down. Me personally, I don't have much of a choice to shop at Citgo from time to time, thats who my employer has a gas contract with, so I find myself going there a couple times a week. Boycotting and shutting down American Citgo stations would have a more devastating effect on US jobs and economy than it would on Chavez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbowman Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! I was told a few years ago that citgo was owned by the French, another reason to boycott them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Re: Boycott CITGO gas!!!!!! wow. venezualean oil with a french connection. think i'll go to exxon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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