oldksnarc Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 After the election Kerry blamed the bin Laden tape for causing him to lose the election. Now I see where he's blaming Fox for his loss. Why doesn't he blame those who are actually responsible for him losing - the 51+ million American voters who saw thru his lying BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? There are too many factors that go into elections and voting today for it to be any one thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? Had not heard much about Kerry lately. Had not heard about him laying blame, but that really doe s not surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] There are too many factors that go into elections and voting today for it to be any one thing. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Early in the campaign Kerry made the mistake of emphasizing his Vietnam War service without considering how that set him up for scrutiny on his actions in the war and more importantly, what he did and said on his return. Then there was his inability to convince people that he could take a stand on a controversial subject and stick to it. Then he chose a trial lawyer as his VP, then he invited several ex-Clinton operatives into his campaign, then he.... Well, the list goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? Then he lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] Then he lost [/ QUOTE ] Good one. Wish I said it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? Actually, I think you are wrong. The one common denominator was John Kerry himself. Let's not blame it on the voters who saw through all of the bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? I never thought of losing an election as a situation where you should start casting blame! If you don't win, it is because of something YOU did or did not do. Sorry, but this blame thing really bothers me....what ever happened to taking responsiblity for your own actions? If you spill your coffee on yourself and get burned, it's not your fault, it is the person who sold it to you....if you shoot someone with a gun it isn't the shooter's fault, it is the person who made the gun....if you get caught drinking and driving, it's not your fault, its the person who sold you the alcohol....if your child is fat, it's not their fault, it is because that fast food place sold them greasy hamburgers and fries every day for lunch... and the list goes on and on and on.... I think the best thing I ever taught my children was they are responsible for their own actions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? OK..........I'll accept some of the blame..........I voted for George Bush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted November 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? No, I want you to blame me, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] No, I want you to blame me, too. [/ QUOTE ] OK, I'm willing to share. I'm not one of those selfish liberals you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] Why doesn't he blame those who are actually responsible for him losing - the 51+ million American voters who saw thru his lying BS. [/ QUOTE ] I am one of the 51+ million!! President Bush is a man that stands by what he says. He has good homestyle values that a lot of people are lacking today. He had my vote before superliberal ever opened his "I got a plan" mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? I personally still have not heard anything in regards to Kerry blaming anyone. Thought he took it and handled his concession very well all things considered. Have heard however that Ohio is still somewhat of a circus and it is not Kerry that is demanding the recounts. As for the blame, I really think Kerry had no one to blame but himself. He had every opportunity to elabortate on how he could make our country stronger and to give more explanation as to how his plans would work. He could not convince the majority of the American people and I think that had everything to do with him and how he showed. Those voters that might have voted for him but did not were just not convinced due to his lack of details. In my opinion he was just not of strong enough character for the American people to believe in his ability to carry out the job as well as Bush is and that is why he lost. The majority of the people including myself felt that President Bush is the best fit for the job, guess he could blame the majority of the American public who went to vote . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] I personally still have not heard anything in regards to Kerry blaming anyone. Thought he took it and handled his concession very well all things considered. Have heard however that Ohio is still somewhat of a circus and it is not Kerry that is demanding the recounts. As for the blame, I really think Kerry had no one to blame but himself. He had every opportunity to elabortate on how he could make our country stronger and to give more explanation as to how his plans would work. He could not convince the majority of the American people and I think that had everything to do with him and how he showed. Those voters that might have voted for him but did not were just not convinced due to his lack of details. In my opinion he was just not of strong enough character for the American people to believe in his ability to carry out the job as well as Bush is and that is why he lost. The majority of the people including myself felt that President Bush is the best fit for the job, guess he could blame the majority of the American public who went to vote . [/ QUOTE ] i dont know of anything going on here in ohio........After voting for bush on election day....i had some re-assurance in my decision when an old friend called to see if i wanted to go to a kegs for kerry party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest huntinsanobsession Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? im not 18 yet. but if i had of been i would have prodly walked into that voting booth and put a big ol' check next to George W. Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] i dont know of anything going on here in ohio........After voting for bush on election day....i had some re-assurance in my decision when an old friend called to see if i wanted to go to a kegs for kerry party [/ QUOTE ] Been seeing on the news, think there was something on it again just last night on nbc nightly news, that someone, a democrat supporter of Kerry, not Kerry himself, but someone is demanding another recount to be done by hand in Ohio. They said it would take about 2 more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? The blame is solidly on 2 people: 1. John Kerry. He didn't do anything to let anybody get to know him. He didn't feel inclined to let the voters in on his big "plans". He tried to deny everything he's done during his entire life since returning from Vietnam. 2. George W. Bush. He ran a better campaign. Period. Oh yeah, one more reason Kerry lost... He catches a football like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i dont know of anything going on here in ohio........After voting for bush on election day....i had some re-assurance in my decision when an old friend called to see if i wanted to go to a kegs for kerry party [/ QUOTE ] they are seeing some messy stuuf here in ohio, but i dont think much of it is carrying over into the federal elections, most of what i have heard of is local stuff. There where several school levies on the ballot, a elderly couple admited to voting three differant times, and wont say who they voted for. The levee was defeted by one vote. Ive also read of several cases of electric machines being set up wrong or just not working where a voter would cast a vote for an individual, and the vote would go to someone else. Been seeing on the news, think there was something on it again just last night on nbc nightly news, that someone, a democrat supporter of Kerry, not Kerry himself, but someone is demanding another recount to be done by hand in Ohio. They said it would take about 2 more weeks. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] You cannot fool all the people in this country. [/ QUOTE ] GW's doing a pretty good job at it. [ QUOTE ] We still have great concerns. John Kerry is a sitting senator from Mass. Yes, I am concerned that one of our parties would allow a liar, traitor and con artist even be elected to one of the highest places of power in our nation. That we as a people allow these types of people to defame our country and fill the minds of our children with the types of cowardly, self ingratiating dribble that comes from his ilk. [/ QUOTE ] Don't be shy now, let your true feelings be heard. Unless you are actually from Massachusetts I would think you would have greater things to worry about than John Kerry. However, if it weren't so danged expensive to live up north and so danged cold, I could move to Mass. very pretty state, great people, good Senators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You cannot fool all the people in this country. [/ QUOTE ] GW's doing a pretty good job at it. [/ QUOTE ] Your opinion sluggo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? [ QUOTE ] Your opinion sluggo [/ QUOTE ] Well said... I think there is a plane leaving for Canada! Help them leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Re: Who\'s fault was it? Let's start a fund drive so sluggo can move to Mass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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