TreeWalker Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hot of the blog presses......Hughes wins with 1st round TKO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAWG Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie submisson or knockout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeWalker Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Stoppage due to unrelenting pounding of gracie's head.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAWG Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Wow I figured he would win but not in the first round. I miss the days of Vitor (the pheonom Belfort) crackin skulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeWalker Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Sounds like Hughes nearly tore Gracies arm off in a arm bar, but somehow Gracie got out of it......he only delayed the inevitable, though...... Don't get me wrong....Gracie is a great fighter, but the speed of todays UFC was what I think was the difference.......Gracie is methodacle (spelling) and Hughes is just radicle.......striking, submissions or just grappling, it just doesn't matter to Hughes....he's that well rounded of a fighter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie That's great....glad to see Hughes win. Iminrut, did you watch the fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Hughes delivered Gracie a good ol' country whooping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie [ QUOTE ] Hughes delivered Gracie a good ol' country whooping! [/ QUOTE ] thats what i was wanting to happen. thats pretty fun to do if you you are on the right end of the hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Here is a link to the vid: Hughes Vs. Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie I picked Hughes to win and it went just the way i thought it would, and i would have bet the house on it. But Gracie is not the same fighter he used to be. In thier prime i would bet the house on Gracie. and i would still have it, because Gracie would have won. You can,t come back. Just look of all the heavyweight boxers who stayed to long or tryed a come back.Joe (Brown Bomber) Louis - Won 68 Lost 3, 54 KO..... Muhammed (Louisville Lip) Ali- won 56 Lost 5, 37 KO etc.,etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Gracie isn't exactly making a "comeback". He's still fighting very successfully under other fighting organizations. Even in his Royce's prime, I'm taking Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Matt Hughes is a machine, he is one of the strongest person pound for pound i have ever seen/read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie [ QUOTE ] Gracie isn't exactly making a "comeback". He's still fighting very successfully under other fighting organizations. Even in his Royce's prime, I'm taking Hughes. [/ QUOTE ] Not me...I have been involved in martial arts and fighting activities since the first UFC and have watched Royce and Rickson battle there way into fame as far as martial arts are concerned. Back when the UFC started, the fighters were everyday joes that dabbled in martial arts. Now-a-days, UFC is their job and they spend the day training for fights as opposed to working at the plant then training at night. The toughest fighters back then always appeared to be the wrestlers. Royce beat guys like the huge Dan Severn (wrestler) and Shamrock. He has fought other mammoth men (nothing but muscle) like Kimo, and submitted them. I think it boils down to the fact that in submission fighting, strength is not the main issue, it is more about technique. A technical fighter can submit a stronger opponent much more regularily that the other way around. I have been a longtime practicioner of Jiu Jitsu and full contact fighting, and this seems to be true. JMO though.... but I think years ago before Hughes was versed in submissions, Gracie would have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbennett6 Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie swamphunter, i couldn't agree with you more, Like you i have been involved for a while, i still remember when Jim Brown was a judge ...I think in Gracies Prime he would have wipped his but with hughes....simply because Hughes would ahve been another Tank Abott..Gracie brought Grappling into the light and to where it is today. no doubt....hughes is an amazing fighter, but he wouldn't be without Gracie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Naturally, these are only matters of opinion and should only be addressed as such. But your last sentence says it all: [ QUOTE ] but I think years ago before Hughes was versed in submissions, Gracie would have won. [/ QUOTE ] Hughes is very well versed in submissions, just look at his latest victories over Gracie, GSP, Trigg, etc. Not only is he a beast at 170lbs, (natural weight is said to be @ 195lbs), but he's a very technical fighter. He does not have a belt rank in Jitz, but I don't see him having much trouble gaining a black belt if he were to try for it. 9 times out of 10, I'm still taking Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie [ QUOTE ] Naturally, these are only matters of opinion and should only be addressed as such. But your last sentence says it all: [/ QUOTE ] You are right, they are ALL opinions. Hughes has been submitted before also. No one doubts the fact that today Hughes is probably more dominant. Years ago against Gracie, he would not have had a very good chance at all. Not without finishing moves that a wrestler just does not learn. All fighters now must know some grappling, or Jiu Jitsu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie I think a lot of people under estimate Hughes' Jitz skills because he does not have a belt paired with the fact that he has a phenomenal wrestling background. PS Swamp; my brother has his first mma fight on July 15th at Madtown Throwdown in Madison. Should be a pretty cool event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbennett6 Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie whats your brother's discipline?...good luck to him, my first fight..i was scarred crapless, i thought the guy was huge..truth is i outweighed him by 15lbs :0..hahaha....hughes has amazing grappling and submission skills, dont need a belt rank to tell you that, however i still say that without gracie, it would still be a bunch of tank abotts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Can't argue that JG. My brother is a blue belt in Jui Jitsu. He's also got marine training. Fighting weight is 140lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbennett6 Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie good luck to him, my fighting weight was 210lbs.now i'm pushing 230..hahah not as flexible as i used to be... ..good for him, i reall hope he does well....no Is it me or does anyoen else here hate Sylva????!!!???..I really hope arlovski takes him to the cleaners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Re: UFC....Hughes Dominates Gracie Not my first fight, but the one where I was probably the most nervous was against a 6'2 295lb heavyweight. (I'm a heavyweight also). I submitted him in just under 2 minutes. Looking back at it, it wasn't even one of my harder fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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