Swamphunter Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hunting scenario.. Sitting in a treestand or ground blind for hours waiting for a decent buck to walk in. Finally, there he is. The wind is in my favor, I am really well concealed, he is alone and totally unaware of my presence. He is at 60 yards standing completely broadside, I have my very well sighted (and trusted) 30-06 in hand. His front leg is in the forward position and his head is down. Totally oblivious to my being here. Just before I pull the trigger, I whsitle or grunt to make him lift his head, look directly towards me and put him on high alert...for the shot. I have been seeing this more and more frequently on hunting shows now-a-days and can't for the life of me, figure out why they would take the chance of losing a deer, just to get the head up for the shot? My 6 year old boy asked me why they do it and I couldn't give him an answer other than for it was for TV purposes only. Is this something I have been forgetting to do for years worth of killing dozens of deer deader than doornails, when they were not aware of my being there? Should I start so I fit in?? What is your opinion on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Heck no. ONLY make a noise to stop a trotting or runnning deer not to lift the head for some picture perfect shot. Every deer I see shot on TV would of been shot like 20 minutes earilier if it were me. LOL I no longer wait for that picture perfect shot I take whats given to me as it may only be the one shot I get... They are hard to come by as it is dont risk blowing it is my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I'm with Shawn on this one.... HECK NO !! I'm not hunting for the camera,, and as Shawn has stated we here may only get one shot in a season and we aren't taking any chances when they are presented to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I have noticed this lately as well. I really dont care if it's head is up or down when it's shot. I think it makes these guys on t.v look like fools actually. Show us the animal up close when it's dead of you want to show us. As far as should you be doing this yourself? I'd say no. Why would you risk spooking an animal so it's head is up and looking at you when you shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I watch a deer long enough when it is coming in for a shot to determine that once it steps in the clear...BLEWEEE!! I see on average 1 good shooter buck a year. Sure wish I lived in a place like Sask Canada!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it That is called "posing" for the camera! Pure BS as to shooting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it [ QUOTE ] That is called "posing" for the camera! Pure BS as to shooting!! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah....What he said!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it With an .30-06 at 60 yards...lol...I wouldn't even wait for a standing shot. Only ever grunt/bleat at a deer to stop it when archery hunting. Sharp cluck at a gobbler to get his head up. But wouldn't risk spooking an animal to "pose" for a shot. I'd rather take the shot when the animal isn't alarmed or alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it It surely is not an educated decision to make artificial sounds to get them to look. For the viewer only. NEVER do it to a deer unless it is needed to stop them for the ethical bow shot. The deer surely won't run as far if it is relaxed as compared to on high alert. You gave the best answer that anyone could have given to their six year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it [ QUOTE ] Heck no. ONLY make a noise to stop a trotting or runnning deer not to lift the head for some picture perfect shot. Every deer I see shot on TV would of been shot like 20 minutes earilier if it were me. LOL I no longer wait for that picture perfect shot I take whats given to me as it may only be the one shot I get... They are hard to come by as it is dont risk blowing it is my opinion... [/ QUOTE ] same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I noticed that on a video not too long ago and I thought to myself "what the heck is that guy doing." I can't for the life of me figure out why someone would alert a deer either Ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I'm sure your really concerned about fitting in Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it [ QUOTE ] I'm sure your really concerned about fitting in Ken [/ QUOTE ] Ya you know me...always want to fit in huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Must be for the camera! When was the last time you saw a predator purposely alert prey before the kill? I agree, don't do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swampgator209 Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it my opinon is this the only time you want to alert this animal is if you want to stop it or if you want to see if it is a mature animal dont worry about fitting in you already do my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it It's just a TV thing. Sort of makes you wonder how many times they blow an opportunity doing something like that and we never are shown their mistakes. Would I do it with a firearm? Heck NO. I won't hardly do it with a bow unless I just have to do something to slow a quick moving deer down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Never really thought about it before, but I had to ask myself, "Why did he do something like that?" when I was watching Jim Shockey's show earlier this week. The camera guy would snort like a pig to get the deer to lift his head up right before the shot. There was a few times when it took quite a few "pig snorts" to get the deer to stop and look up. Hit the mute button and the footage was great, but with the sound on, the hunt was ruined for the viewer when the dude was acting like he had his head in the oat trough.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Do you ever hear the hunter asking the cameraman, "Are you on him?" or the cameraman say, "Shoot him, go ahead shoot him!" annoying as all get out as far as I am concerned. Then again a lot of these videos only teach bad habits anyhow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODH Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it never whistle or let a standing buck know your there, only grunt or bleat to stop a moving buck in archery season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Im with all the rest of the guys. Why let a buck that is standing still know you are there. Rather stupid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it The last deer I shot was trotting straight toward me. I put a bullet about 2" off center on his chest. He dropped like a rock. If I had made a noise he probibly would have bolted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it Only time I make a noise as such is to stop a deer. Head up or down makes me no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I'll mess with them a bunch when I'm shooting video, just to watch their reactions. Some of it get's pretty comical, especially when I start talking to them. If a buck walks out that I want to shoot, well he isn't going to be around long enough to listen to much of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it What makes a good hunting shot and what makes good TV that will sell are two different things. I'm still trying to figure out why it is that a TV hunter with a highpower centerfire deer rifle thinks he has to pass a deer (or bear or elk or whatever) if it's not 100% still and perfectly broadside. Whatever happened to the "quartering toward" and "quartering away" shot?? Both are what we call "bang-flop" situations...........yet TV hunting logic would have many believe a .270 or '06 or .300 Mag just won't reach the vitals from an angle. Somebody's drunk!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagobbln Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Re: I just don\'t get it I've always tried to do just the opposite. I try to get them to put their head down - on the ground! I've found a muzzle blast or even the quiet thump of a bowstring works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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