Bow Hunter Derek Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Here is an email that I sent to G5 today. And following it is their response. G5 - I know you have received a ton of email and are aware of the out cry against your association with the WHA. I just wanted to drop you an email as an avid archer and bow hunter who deeply cherishes the traditions of hunting. In my opinion, what the WHA is proposing is simply the WORST idea that I have ever heard in regard to a "hunting" related issue. I believe that if this flies, this will be the death of hunting as we know it. Unfortunately news of this contest has already spread through the internet media faster than gas on a fire. If this makes it to the TV media, the public out cry is going to be huge. This type of contact puts such a bad light on the general hunting world. As hunters we fight a continual up hill battle every day against those who want to take away our hunting privileges. It is difficult to convince Joe Public that hunting is a necessary tool in the conservation and management of wild life populations. The public will either view such a competition in one of two ways. A) it will look at this as a viable means of hunting for sport, without killing animals and further fuel their fire to protect all animals from falling to a hunter's arrow or bullet OR B) they will look at as a cruel harassment of wildlife (WHICH IT IS) and associate this practice with what they feel is the cruelty in killing an animal through a hunter's arrow or bullet. We as hunters and those in the hunting industry do not need either of these scenarios. While I understand that as a business, G5 and other companies might very well be able to see the business side (aka money) to this idea. As a business man myself, I can understand the allure of big money, un-tapped markets, or creating a market for a product/service. After all, that is part of what makes American business so appealing. However, as a business man, I have to know when to say when. When something crosses the lines of ethics or legal issues, one has to sit back and re-evaluate what is gained at the expense to others, the business, and the industry. It is my belief that a reputable hunting related company, such as G5, can do much more damage to their own business and the hunting industry by being involved with a venture such as the WHA. The ramifications will run deep if the public perceives the WHA events in what is feared my many. The hunting community as a whole will remember what they were against and who was involved the next time they purchase broad heads, sights, tools, peep sights, etc. The loss of sales will be more than just members of Archerytalk.com or bowsite.com. Other hunters will learn of this event and form their own opinions that effect their buying habits. I've never used a G5 product. I was considering trying a few small game heads and the new peep sight. While my purchases would have been insignificant in the G5 sales figures, they are probably lost forever now. G5 has made some impressive innovations in the bow hunting world in a short amount of time. I beg you to not let these innovations go to waste by associating your good name with the WHA and their circus side show they call "hunting". Derek E. Craig, PE Here is the response I just got back from G5 Hello Derek, Thank you for your e-mail. We at G5 outdoors are very interested in your concerns. As of today we have withdrawn our support and sponsorship of the WHA. Our only intent was to grow archery. This is clearly not happening. Please explain to your friends and fellow hunters that G5 in no way intended to offend anyone and that we have listened to your voice. Thanks again for your correspondence. Sincerely, Peter Crawford G5 Outdoors LLC [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Thank Goodness!! I was going to try some of their new G5 Strikers this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! [ QUOTE ] Hello Derek, Thank you for your e-mail. We at G5 outdoors are very interested in your concerns. As of today we have withdrawn our support and sponsorship of the WHA. Our only intent was to grow archery. This is clearly not happening. Please explain to your friends and fellow hunters that G5 in no way intended to offend anyone and that we have listened to your voice. Thanks again for your correspondence. Sincerely, Peter Crawford G5 Outdoors LLC [email protected] [/ QUOTE ] See, it does pay to make our voices heard. OH Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Now we have to work on Xtreme Scents, and Pneu-Dart. That is the other two sponsors they mention on the site. Xtreme Scents Xtreme Sports Group 12785 Emerson Drive Brighton, MI 48116-8562 U.S.A. Telephone: (810) 220-9392 Fax: (810) 225-7754 Email: [email protected] ............................................................... Contact Information Main Office: 15223 Route 87 Highway Williamsport, PA 17701 Toll Free: 1.866.299.DART (3278) (p) 570.323.2710 (f) 570.323.2712 Email: [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Thank God!!!! Best news ive heard all day. Well guess we should buckee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! [ QUOTE ] See, it does pay to make our voices heard [/ QUOTE ] Yer' dern right it does! Real good letter Derek, Good job! Mine wasn't so nice,but to the point like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Here's the letter I sent [ QUOTE ] To Whom it may concern at G5 Outdoors, First off, I want to say, that I am a bow-hunter who loves your Montec G5 broad-heads., but for how long, I am not sure. I understand you have committed yourself as a sponsor to the "WORLD HUNTING ASSOCIATION's Hunting Competition". I am not sure if you are fully aware of what you're getting yourself into with this NEW-found alignment. You really do need to reconsider. If this new idea and show airs, it will be the beginning of a long and hard road for you as well as all of us ethical hunters. Don't take this one mans word for it. Browse around the Internet, and see what the overwhelming majority of hunters in different hunting forums are saying ....please, before it's too late. bowsite.com http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/tf/bgforu...mp;FF=2#1993607 archerytalk.com http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=338952 Kisky.com http://www.kisky.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1149709039 Huntingbc.com http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=70629#post70629 Hunttalk.com http://www.hunttalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=258543#post258543 Realtree.com http://www.realtree.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/972652/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/2 Sincerely, Steve Kane [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Was a good idea sending them all of those links buckee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Kinda multiplies my voice a bit ...eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Hunt Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Thats great news ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Just a little buckee. By about umm a couple hundred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! That is great to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntn4bucks Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! Nice job Derek. That's great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow Hunter Derek Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! [ QUOTE ] Nice job Derek. That's great news. [/ QUOTE ] Trust me, it was not me that changed their minds. It was the TON of emails they got from the many hunters on this forum and all the forums like this one. I just posted up my email to them as an example of what I wrote. Mine probably was not even read in full detail by them. But you are right it is "great news". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! I just got this from G5 outdoors [ QUOTE ] Thank you for your e-mail. We at G5 outdoors are very interested in your concerns. As of 4:00 p.m. on June 12, 2006 we have withdrawn our support and sponsorship of the WHA. Our only intent was to grow archery. This is clearly not happening. Please explain to your friends and fellow hunters that G5 in no way intended to offend anyone and that we have listened to your voice. Thanks again for your correspondence. Sincerely, Peter Crawford National Sales Manager G5 Outdoors [/ QUOTE ] Thought I'd pass it on too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Re: G5 has pulled out! i use xtremescents.... well hopefully they will pull out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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