Jeramie Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Yesterday my wife picked up a 1/2 horse pump from the local rental. With a 2" hose we are lucky to get 6gpm. Most of the time it wont even inflate the hose. Im trying to avoid having over $600 in Water hauled out by the tanker. I was told that the gas-powered pumps (average 200+gpm) wouldnt hold a prime while lifting water 15'. I honestly have no idea. I just know that the pump we have isnt doing it at all... I have a nice clear cold well that I can pump it out of but need to know what sort of pump would really move water up a 15' lift and roughly 200' to the pool? Anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Jeramie, I am trying to find that out for you, but I can't make any promise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... The 15' lift is where the problem is! You are going to need one heck of a pump to do that! Once the water is lifted to the surface, the 200 feet to the pool really isn't a problem! I think the $600.00 to have it hauled is going to be the way to go or better yet, get rid of the pool!! Sorry that I can't give any better advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Was thinking for some reason you had two wells, a shallow and deep well. What runs your household water? If you have enough pressure in the house, you should be able to use a hydrant from that same well. Guess I am kind of confused about where your problem is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosdog2 Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Did you check Home Depot, they rent some industrial pumps that have a fire hose size pump. I used one to drain a low area on the property before. We rented it, it was a while ago, but I think it was less than $200 for a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Just dont understand why your pool is not already full of water Jeramie. With the standard pump on our well, we can fill our pool(13,000 gallons) running two garden hoses from frost free hydrants in the yard in less than a day. Dont take this wrong buddy, but if this is your primary or only well, and you are having pressure problems you cannot resolve, might be time to put getting the well fixed at the top of the priority list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Actually the well is a little on the sick side. The foot valve is sticking open right now. I need to replace it. The water comming in the house is restricted by nature and it works with no hitches. If you run one hose wide open it will run for an unspecified amount of time, eventually lose its prime, and then shut off. You never know when that will happen. To top it off, its a well. Unlike city water youre only going to get a certain GPM. Most wells are rated at 10gpm (from what ive read). A standard 5/8" garden hose is rated at 5-7gpm. If you take the mean (6 gpm) and figure a 19000 gallon pool, youre looking at 52.77778 hours. We are running the well every night but we cant leave it on for a number of reasons. One is I am pumping water from a frost proof hydrant. If the well kicks off the natural suction will draw (syphin) water back through the hose and literally drain the pool back into the ground. I figured this out with my horses water. We are running it every night right now so that we can watch it. Its still a far cry from full but if you figure a couple of hours of water a night.... It dont add up to much. We are wanting to fill this thing and get the pump on before the water has a chance to start growing stuff.... Also, after all the work we have put into it my wife wants to get in the pool asap. If I wanted to be patient it would eventually fill but we really dont want to wait 10-15 days at the rate we are going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricfirefighter Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... call your local fire department see if they will come pump it for a small donation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... I know the fire cheif very well. He said he would fill it but they dont use stainless tanks. Why, I dont know. He would fill it but I will get serious metal flakes from the Carbon Steel Tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... [ QUOTE ] call your local fire department see if they will come pump it for a small donation [/ QUOTE ] Thats a good idea, I know a few who have had that done. They took water right from the lake and pumped it into my friends pool. Don't worry the chemicals will clean it and you'll never know where the water came from Water is like 8lbs a gallon and with a 2" hose up 15' that is alot of weight you are asking a pump to move. Look into the fire dept. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Jeramie, you can leave the water on. Tie the hose/s off to a ladder or other struture on the outside of the pool to where you have just a portion of the hose extending into the pool in the air. I always tie our hoses around our railing on the deck above the level I want the water Our hydrants are all frost free hydrants too. If you are having this much trouble out of the well you might consider getting a new well drilled or paying a professional to repair it rather than blowing the money and still having the same ongoing problem. 6-7 gpm is extremely slow. As I recall your wqell problems are not something new, think you have had a post or two about this in the past. Our well at the house is not an industrial well, but will fill an empty 100 gallon stock tank through a heavy duty garden hose in about 7 or 8 minutes. My math tells me that is a rate averaging about 13 gpm. My well at the barn is an industrial well, and it will fill a 100 gallon tank in under 5 minutes. Again, not trying to tell you what to do, but can foresee that if you dont fix it right soon, at some point later down the line you might be kicking yourself in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Actually we have a great well, it is the foot valve on the well that is giving us troubles. Its a cheap easy fix. It will run about $20 but I have to pull my well. I have so much on my plate right now that its next to impossible to do it right now. We actually have plans to pull it this weekend. We turned the water on yesterday and let it run from 2:00 to 4:00 this morning when I got up. There was a very noticable difference. Once I replace the foot valve I can take off the sprayer and let it run wide open. This will make a HUGE difference. The well itself actually does pretty well. All the troubles I am having is because it is losing the prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Surprised with knowing this you didnt fix it before putting up your pool . Might still, if you are looking at paying to have water pumped or whatever to fill the pool, be in your best interest if you cannot get to it yourself to just go ahead on and pay somone to have it done rather than renting pumps or having water delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: I still am in need of a pump.... Actually we had planned on pumping the old well. Thats why we didnt worry about the foot valve! Btw, we are replacing the valve Saturday. It will only take about an hour. You pull the line, unscrew the old on, and put on the new one. Drop it back down and youre good to go. My neighbors well is only 25' so im guessing My well isnt much deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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