buckee Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Here's an update on WHA from: OUTDOORS WITH OTHMAR VOHRINGER This guy is not going to give up or go away any time soon. Fellow hunters...we need to stop this thing in it's tracks. [ QUOTE ] OPEN LETTER TO ALL HUNTERS - “A shot in the Arm” You could say many things about David Faberman, the CEO of the World Hunting Association, but lack in self-confidence is not one of them. Faberman published an open letter to all hunters on his website. An attempt to extinguish the fire of fury he created with the announcement to launch his concept of competitive game shooting with tranquilizer guns and arrows. To me it looks like he just added some more fuel to the fire with that letter. Having received thousands of letters from angry hunters that caused his sponsors to pull out of his high fence live target shooting plans. He now feels that he has to justify his great idea and add a little patronizing to it. He writes; “Let’s face it, our sport could use a shot in the arm…It’s time to improve that image and show the world the complexity, skill and strategy that is the core of hunting.” I like the “shot in the arm” bit. Did he intend the pun? Beats me how he wants to “improve” the image of hunting. How? By shooting tranquilizer drugs at penned animals and then having them scored and flashing a big cardboard check for x-thousand dollars in front of the camera. I can see it now how PETA and other such organizations endorse that type of sport as “ethical” treatment of animals. Faberman also believes that his competition sport game-chasing endeavor will have a positive impact on game conservation, disease control and other “valuable scientific impacts.” No he is not kidding. That seems what he truly believes. I guess it would be like doing research on livestock like cows, that is what penned game is, and then use that data for wild living bison. He also says that Licensed Veterinarians will do blood samples on the bucks and then mark them so that they will not be shot with drugs twice in a competition. Tranquilizing wild animals is a very dodgy affair. Every veterinarian will tell you, to get the dose right you have to know the age, weight and general health and physical condition of the animal. That is not possible with wild animals, unless they are tame, and thus the fatality “overdosing” is quit high. For me there is also another issue with that sort of sport. Animals suffer high stress in tranquilized condition. Remember they are not knocked out cold and sleep. Tranquilized animals are fully conscious and aware they just can’t move or feel pain. Next to overdosing the stress is what kills a lot of so treated animals. I imagine the stress level could be even higher for the animal with all the hoopla of high fifing, hollering, cameras and light around them. The letter ends with; “Now is the time for all hunters to stand together, shoulder to shoulder. While new ideas and change can sometimes be uncomfortable, this is a great opportunity for hunters to elevate the sport, clear up misconceptions and expand the next generation of hunters.” It is just me that thinks Faberman is a tad patronizing in the last paragraph? “While new ideas and change can sometimes be uncomfortable…” Why does he think real hunters are uncomfortable with his new idea? Has he not read the letters and emails he’s gotten from highly concerned outdoors enthusiasts? Could it be that we have every reason to be uncomfortable with the idea that the hunting heritage is to be turned into a spectator’s sport like tennis or baseball? You bet I am uncomfortable with it and so are thousands of other hunters judging from what we have heard. I am not sure at all how Faberman thinks that his sport “hunting”- big money paying -using game animals as live targets and dope them up to their eyeballs possible could clear up “misconceptions” about hunting let alone “elevate the sport”. I do not know Faberman personally and have no desire to remedy that fact. But I do know that he has absolutely not the foggiest idea what the spirit and the heritage of hunting is. Neither does he know what stirs deep down in our soul when we enter the great outdoors and follow our natural instinct that has been with us from the time of the beginning. Faberman welcomes hunter’s feedback and suggestions, he says, to build his “sport hunting tour”. Please write him and let him know how you think about his ideas and plans: [email protected] [/ QUOTE ] www.worldhunt.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" What an arrogant jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" Anti-hunters already don't want us shooting just the animals we eat. So in the mind of the anti-hunters and the non-militant public that just doesn't hunt, shooting animals in a pen with a tranquilizer dart is going to be stomachable? This guy needs some help! New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" p.s. which sponsors signed onto this in the first place? [EDITED...ANSWER below]: G-5 Outdoors, Eastman Outdoors, Inc. (Carbon Express Arrows), Gorilla, Inc. (Treestands), Xtreme Scents, Pneu-Dart, and others. I will not be supporting these companies any longer. They should have known how bad this looks. When hunting becomes a SPORT, hunting will go away. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAWG Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" The WHA still hasnt wrote me back (how bout you ?). But I have got several back from sponsors which have since wihdrawn sponsorship. Has anybody heard realtrees thoughts on this I havent heard yet? Mossy oak customer relations has to;d me they completely disagree with the idea of the WHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007hunter Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" [ QUOTE ] p.s. which sponsors signed onto this in the first place? [EDITED...ANSWER below]: G-5 Outdoors, Eastman Outdoors, Inc. (Carbon Express Arrows), Gorilla, Inc. (Treestands), Xtreme Scents, Pneu-Dart, and others. I will not be supporting these companies any longer. They should have known how bad this looks. When hunting becomes a SPORT, hunting will go away. New [/ QUOTE ] New, I'm pretty sure most of them companies have pulled out...someone else can confirm this but this is what I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" [ QUOTE ] p.s. which sponsors signed onto this in the first place? [EDITED...ANSWER below]: G-5 Outdoors, Eastman Outdoors, Inc. (Carbon Express Arrows), Gorilla, Inc. (Treestands), Xtreme Scents, Pneu-Dart, and others. I will not be supporting these companies any longer. They should have known how bad this looks. When hunting becomes a SPORT, hunting will go away. New [/ QUOTE ] But some of those so called sponsors dropped out. Which is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" Is ESPN still going air this garbage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" Yeah, I understand they dropped out but the mere fact that they signed on in the beginning is enough for me. The anti-hunters already accuse us of getting our jollies by killing and this idea would just make matters worse. Worse idea, EVER New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" [ QUOTE ] Yeah, I understand they dropped out but the mere fact that they signed on in the beginning is enough for me. The anti-hunters already accuse us of getting our jollies by killing and this idea would just make matters worse. Worse idea, EVER New [/ QUOTE ] Ok New. You have your thoughts i have mine. I will consider there products. Other than that i agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah, I understand they dropped out but the mere fact that they signed on in the beginning is enough for me. The anti-hunters already accuse us of getting our jollies by killing and this idea would just make matters worse. Worse idea, EVER New [/ QUOTE ] Ok New. You have your thoughts i have mine. I will consider there products. Other than that i agree with you. [/ QUOTE ] I have to agree with New on this one. The fact that these companies even CONCIDERED this show tells me that they are dangerous to the sport I love. For example, I buy my coffee every morning in the same Hess gas station. If I found out that they were donating money to PETA I would stop going there. I may still like their coffee but I am not giving them money to in turn give it to a bad cause. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" I will still shoot G5's even though they were going too then they pulled out because they listened to their hunters. A company listening is a company that I will support. If they would not have listened I would have shipped back my Montecs and tell them where they could stick them! G5 listened and did the right thing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Re: World Hunt Competition \"UPDATE\" Rangerclay i would do the same thing tho if i were buying somthing like you said and they were donating money to PETA. But also look at what advantage said a company that listens to its buyers/supporters is a company i think i can/might still consider there products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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