Guest tyshe17 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I am trying to decide on which arrows I want to hunt with this year, and I am between the Carbon Express Maximas and Eastons ST Epics (not camo) CE's weigh 8.2 per inch and Epics weigh 9.4. If I set up the CE's with a wrap and all I will be about 368 which barly clears 5 grains per pound (72 lbs). I shot these arrows last year and had great results, but didnt have to deal with any shoulder hits with a light arrow. Just trying to get some oppinions. I am a big fan of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy. Last year all 3 deer went down inside of 50 yds with complete pass throughs, but I also dont want to put myself in a position of poor penetration and wounding an animal if I can help it. Perhaps someone can tell me their results with a similar set up on large deer hit in the shoulder. Thanks...and my bow's speed is about 280 with a 30 in. draw. Have a good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight Personally, I like to be around 380-400 grains for hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyshe17 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight That is what I am wanting. After a little more research, I have decided on the Carbon Maxima Hunters. They run 8.9 gpi's and will add about 15 more grains to my arrow weight, plus I will get to keep the same arrows I have had positive results with plus, I get to keep my Easton pro form for Fat Boys come 3d season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UltraTec360 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight 5 gpp is harder on the bow, as well. I've found that around 5.7-5.8 gpp is about optimum. KE is of course figured on weight and speed, and there is a point of diminishing returns. The heavier you go w/ your arrow, the more KE you get, to a point. It then begins to drop off because of the speed loss. But, conversely, a light arrow isn't as efficient, either. It's a delicate balance, but if you can get around the 400-425 gr. area w/ your pull weight, you'll be set to rock and roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight At 368 gr with the DW and DL that you have and you will blow through almost any whitetails shoulder at 30yds. I guess I have to add a bit. Pending a sharp broadhead of course. Maybe even a Muzzy. LOL You will get lots of answers or may get lots pending the season and how the board runs this time of year. The closer to 5 gpp the more apt to do damage to your limbs. Just for giggles my arrows weigh in between 5.8 and 6.1 gpp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight Mine have been 435grns for the last 3 years. I'm shooting 285fps with theses arrows and believe the KE is around 75#s. IMO anything over 50#s of KE is plenty for good penatration. The heavier arrow you use the less wear it will have on your bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAbowhunter4life Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight 280 fps, 368 grain arrows equates to roughly 64# of KE. Now, that is definitely enough to pass through any animal in North America...... BUT, at 368 grains, bone contact would definitely become an issue IMO. In the event of a bone hit I would definitely want my arrow weighing in at 400 grains at the least for the added momentum which is what will carry the arrow on through the bone. Speed is a great thing to have as it flattens out your trajectory and makes judging yardage less critical. However, from a pure penetration stand point, the heavier arrow is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyshe17 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight Thanks for the info y'all, I am going to go up a little in weight, and yes it will be tipped with a 3-blade 100 grain muzzy (same one that took 3 last year). Hopefully a post will come later this fall about the awesome job this combination did on a deer for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight My arrows weigh roughly 345gr. and that is with a 100gr tip. If I shoot vanes, that will bump me up to 360gr. Without changing arrows, I really can't go much heavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight I've got two bows set-up, one at 65# with a 360 grain arrow at 63.59 K.E. and the other at 66# with a 361 grain arrow with 66.04 K.E. and have no problems with bones. Of course I shoot Muzzy broadheads! LOL I like to hold my arrows right around the 5.7 to 5.8 gpp on my set-ups, they seem to perform much much better with that. I'm not giving much up on the noise issue either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadeye270 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight IMO I like to be about 400-420 total. You may look at just going up to a 125gr head. That would improve your FOC% as well as your overall arrow weight. Also be aware that there are a few states out there that have a minimium arrow weight of 400gr. I don't think TN is one of them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight SS, How are you getting 60lbs plus in Kenetic energy? What speed are you shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight SS made a great point here about arrow weight and noise. Heavy arrows shoot much quieter than light ones. If you have a bow that twangs a bit try increasing your arrow weight before you add $150 worth of the best gyzmos on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UltraTec360 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight [ QUOTE ] IMO I like to be about 400-420 total. You may look at just going up to a 125gr head. That would improve your FOC% as well as your overall arrow weight. [/ QUOTE ] While this is certainly true, the only thing that may be a problem is arrow spine. Changing broadhead weight will also change the spine of the arrow. Prolly not enough to matter, but if you are already borderline underspined, a heavier tip will almost gaurantee it. It always amazes me that todays bows produce more KE that it's max draw weight. You just gotta love that mechanical advantage!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight I've just bought a new bow and now have to decide on which arrows to shoot from my setup so i'm finding this all too interesting. So when you guys are speaking of overall arrow weight are you factoring in the weight of the broadhead, vanes, wraps, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo_hunter Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight [ QUOTE ] I've just bought a new bow and now have to decide on which arrows to shoot from my setup so i'm finding this all too interesting. So when you guys are speaking of overall arrow weight are you factoring in the weight of the broadhead, vanes, wraps, etc.? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, total arrow weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight Gator, My CSS is shooting 282 fps and my Martin SE is shooting 287 fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight 380 grains total weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight I kinda figured that out. I'm screwed to shoot that fast with my stubby arms!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo_hunter Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight this year 361 grains 67 lbs/KE. I've gone back and forth from 361 to 414 grains in the last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPic Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight I shoot 565gr & 545gr GoldTips off my recurves(52# & 56#)and longbow(52#).These bows shoot around 170fps so I imagine the KE is pretty low but they'll blow thru anything I shoot at out to 25yds or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Re: Hunting Arrow weight Mine are around 480g to 500g and I shoot 56# recurve bow. Not sure what my fps is but its seems fast for a trad bow. I would guess it to be around 175 to 180 fps. This is based on comparing it to my other bow that has been chronoed at 183 fps with a 500g arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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