VTbowman Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I am in the process of setting up a 17.5" Encore 223 heavy barrel handgun with a Bushnell 6-24x40 varmit scope with mil dot reticle. This will be for predator hunting. I have never gone and dont know a single person in my area that hunts them so I am on my own. I have property pleanty to hunt them but really dont know how. What should the beginner buy for calls and how do you hunt them. VT has a open season on them and I need more firearms hunting then the 2 weeks we get in Nov for deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? I am probably the wrong person to ask, I just dont seem to have any luck with calling them, but I had several people suggest the primos calling all coyotes predator pack. Comes with a DVD with Randy Anderson, and has a kiyi and a hot dog call. The video is really good and the calls are good calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? The randy anderson series is really good like wtnhunt said. But talk to captkb44 he makes awesome calls. He is here on the forum you know that i think. Anyway as far as calling. If you can just sit on a field and call them in thats where i do alot of my calling. Everyonce in a while when there are a few of us together we will slip into the woods and do some calling but i dont really like to call in the woods at night seems like one will sneak up on me or somthing and i wont hear it. Id say do you calling series about 10 to 20 seconds. About all i have time to write right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Go to walmart and get you a little stuffed rabbit and set it out in the field and that gives them somthing to home in on. Will take some attention off you. There is another thing i would try to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Yep I planned on the decoy rabbit and I can actually do a wicked wounded rabbit on some of my turkey diaphram calls. LOL Thing is with that; I get out of breath quickly and then not in any shape to take long range shots when trying to catch my breath. LOL I though about electronic calling but it seems a tad expensive to start out with. I know for a fact we have a ton of yotes around but I justy never see them or hear them. What is the best time of day and best time of year to hunt them? Can it be done from an elevated box stand (6') that over looks hundreds of yards of open feild, or do you need to be tucked into brush and camo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Well right now from what cap has told me and i have found out. The best time now is at night if legal in your state or in the morning or evening. As far as the electronic calls go alot of people here like them but i dont like the sound they make doesnt sound as good as a nice mouth call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkb44 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? This time of year its usually better hunting at night, but early morning and late evening should be productive too. Once fall gets here and things start cooling off, anytime of day can be productive. Pay attention to the weather and try to get out a day before a storm moves in. I started out using an electronic caller, the cassette type and had pretty good success. I just hated carrying that heavy thing around all day. The newer electronic callers are awesome. Light weight and a sound library with more sounds than most will ever use. They are expensive, but I have found out you get what you pay for. The cheap e-callers are just that in my opinion. Now that I have gotten into making hand calls the past 3 or so years, thats pretty much all I use. They are easier to carry, easy to use, cheaper, and work great. I prefer an open reed call most of the time just because its so versatile. You can get several different types of howls, pup distress, bird distress, and rabbit distress out of one call. The only coyotes I have taken from an elevated stand was ones that just happened by as I was sitting there. Coyotes have a super keen sense of hearing and smell. They can pinpoint sounds from a long distance. If your calling from an elevated stand, I would predict that most of the time they are going to spot you before you ever know they are around. I am not saying you won't call any in, but I feel your odds are better by camoing up from head to toe and sitting next to brush. Pay attention to wind direction and try to have some open spots towards the downwind side. Generally coyotes will try and circle downwind so that they can get a smell of whats actually going on. Catching him before he gets downwind is the trick. I suggest a good pair of shooting sticks if your going to spend much time in the woods calling predators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Night hunting is out and I really am not plannign on doing any hunting anytime real soon. I am still building my gun anyways and will need to practice long range sgooting a rifle scope on an Encore handgun... E-calls are out too since I just do not have the $$$ for a decent one so I will be using regular calls. I know zero about predator hunting so please tell me what type of call, or sounds I want at 1st, and what brands are good or not. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkb44 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Well there are three good commercial calls that I like - Burnham Brothers mini blaster and tweety or sycho tweety by Verminator Predator Calls. There are alot more out there and it all boils down to what you like personally. For the money they are hard to beat and you can buy them online at www.allpredatorcalls.com for less than $15.00. You can also have a custom call made to suit you. There are alot of call makers out there that make some great calls starting around $15 and can get as high as $75 or higher. If your interested in any of those, I can point you into the right direction there. If you can get distress sounds from a diaphram turkey call then you would have no problem with an open reed call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younameit Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Hey captkb44 which way should I go to get one of those custom calls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Yes I can get a decent wounded rabbit call going off my turkey diaphram calls. I have a full compliment for turkey hunting thats for sure. Is there a call set that comes with a instructional CD? I like to hear what they sound like, or should sound like, and practice in the truck while I make my 1 hour (one way) commute to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hookedonhunting Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? The most important thing is to be setup in a good location where there are #'s of dogs. And use godd camo and brush around you to stay hidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkb44 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? Fisher1 and VT, I sent you both a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
257bob Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? I am a die hard yote hunter. Closed reed calls are the easiest to master for beginners. The problem is that when the weather is really cold they freeze up. I prefer an open reed call. It takes more time practicing to master, but you will be able to make a wider variety of calls and they don't freeze up. I use several calls. For closed reed calls Sceery makes some great rabit in distress calls. My favorite open reed are the Critter call, all of the Verminator calls, and the Tally Ho. You should set up where you have a good field of view. When possible hunt with a buddy. It is easier to cover all directions with two. You need camo head to toe (everything). Be quiet getting in and out of your vehicle. When you finally find a setup and set down, be patient. I generally call for at least 30 minutes. Start out with a short 15-30 second cadence in case you have any yotes close. You don't want to bust them by a loud and long call. If you don't see anything after a minute or two start calling in 45 sec-90 sec cadences and then sit for 3-5 minutes. Calling All Coyotes, the original before Randy Anderson went to Primos is a great informational video. He teaches about the different calls types and sounds. If you have any other questions please IM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PixelDoctor Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Re: Tips for a newby yote hunter? I love the Primos Randy Anderson series, I have the whole series and they are quite effective, although the Hot Dog really takes some practice... I can do 3 or 4 interrogation Howls, the a few pup squalls and have coys comming in from miles away, no distress calls just a couple of coyote vocalizations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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