LifeNRA Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I guess I forgot to get a new d-loop on my string set when it was installed. I got the right knot and all. But is there anything I need to do before I tighten it up? Also, how do you all tighten the d-loop? What size should the loop be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartonman Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? I make mine kinda small, I only make it big enough to support a nock, and the release, and tighten the excess....but if you choose fire to burn the end of the knot, pre burn the length of the loop before its on the bow string, or be extremely careful....I once on accident burned into the bow string......it was ugly FAST al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? The first question usually asked is what kind of string to use. You need a stiff, non-stretching cord about 1/8 inch in diameter. Cord designed for this is available at your pro shop in bulk or in pre-cut lengths. Beware of cord that is designed for use with rope releases. I tried it and found it was too flexible and wore out pretty quickly. Before you start WAX the string first, it will make things easier in the end... Step 1. Begin with a section of cord about 4 3/4 inches long. Step 2. Pass the cord over the string, loop it around itself and back under the string. Step 3. Wrap the cord under the string and pass it back through the loop. Step 4. Repeat the process but this time begin underneath the string and proceed in the opposite direction. The knots should face in opposite directions to help prevent the loop from twisting around the string. I've also found it more comfortable to shoot if the bottom knot faces away from my cheek. The loop should be just a little smaller than the finished size, it will stretch when you tighten it down. Step 5. Before you tighten it down you use a bowsquare to ensure it's positioned where you want it on the string. Step 6. I've found the easiest way to get it tight is to use a pair of needle nosed pliers to stretch the loop. Step 7. Finally you need cut the tag ends leaving about 1/8 inch, then melt them with a match or lighter, and flatten them out. BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET THE FLAME TO CLOSE TO THE BOWSTRING. Some people will tie small knots the ends to keep the loop from coming loose. If the end are flattened properly this should not be a problem. That's all there is to it. You can make final adjustments to the position of the loop by carefully twisting it up and down the string in the direction of the serving. Also, ensure the knots are far enough apart to prevent pinching the nock when the bow is drawn as this can cause tuning problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Awesome Luke! I already have the loop on the string with them knots, and used a pliers to pull them tight. I also found out that you need to make the loop small at first then pull it! Because it will pull out some! But what I noticed, I can still move the knots around! I remembered seeing a tool in the Cabela's catalog. Wonder if anybody has one or used one? There new I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? As far as the size of the loop is concerned. It all depends on your anchor point. The loop can fine tune where your anchor point is. Some guys prefer to lengthern the string a 1/4 inch, while others prefer to just amke the loop a tad longer. Remember if you lengthen the string you must change the cable length to obtain the correct DW. Isn't making the loop shorter or longer easier? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? DW, draw weight? I have the loop the same length as it was on the old string. It was 5/8" from end of loop(center) to the string itself. I would rather do this little stuff myself, being kinda new with bows. I get these questions rolling around! One day Ill have a Bowmaster bow press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Yeah, DW is draw weight and will change of you either lenghten the string or shorten it. The bow string I'm referring to not the string loop. Hope this clears this up a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Re: D-Loops? [ QUOTE ] Yeah, DW is draw weight and will change of you either lenghten the string or shorten it. The bow string I'm referring to not the string loop. Hope this clears this up a tad. [/ QUOTE ] You lost me.... What may I ask, doe's the string length and Draw weight have to do with installing a D-Loop ?? I'm not trying to be a smart- ____. just trying to understand what your getting at.... I know how explanations can get lost in having to type them out.... GOD knows I've been there myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Well, you can use the "d" loop to dial in your anchor point position... or you can just make you "d" loop consistant and change your twists in the string. Seeing that ever string is not the same but close in length doing one of the two is necessary if you are an anchor point perfectionist. I'm sure you understand now. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Ah, I'll continue for a second. If your DL is 28" (and you use a 28" cam)but your anchor point is at 28.75" you could use a .75" string loop or you could use a .5" loop and untwist your string. But then you have to mess with your cable. Too much for some guys but not for others. As I said, Isn't just making the string loop the right length easier? LMBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyshe17 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? just futer reference if anyone pre-cuts their d-loop material, the other day at worked, I used some pre cut loops that were 4.5in already burned, and for me it made the perfect size loop...I had always wondered what length that was typically used, bc usually we have about 7 inches and throw a lot away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteRunner Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Nice Instructions Luke! Sent you a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? Luke! Dude! How are you getting this %@ thing tight!!! I all but threw the bow out the window! It keeps moving. The old loop never moved, twisted, or turned! I am guessing they used one of them d-loop pliers, well guess what! I heading there Friday to buy one! Ill let you know how they work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? It also depends on the quality of the D Loop material. Believe me all loop material is not made the same. I have moved to BCY and never had another problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? LMBO!!!!!! Just got off the phone with Cabela's archery. They said I was not making it tight enough because, I wasnt spreading the jaws of the pliers to tighten! I was clamping down and PULLING on the tag end of the material! I was wondering why in Luke's pics the pliers were in the loop and not pulling on it! DUH!!!!!! Ok, going to bed now! Now that I made a mule of my self! LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Re: D-Loops? [ QUOTE ] I was wondering why in Luke's pics the pliers were in the loop and not pulling on it! DUH!!!!!! Ok, going to bed now! Now that I made a mule of my self! LOL!!! [/ QUOTE ] LOL... you NUT.... Sorry I didn't get to this quick enough.... At least now you will be the talk at Cabelas for awhile.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Re: D-Loops? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I was wondering why in Luke's pics the pliers were in the loop and not pulling on it! DUH!!!!!! Ok, going to bed now! Now that I made a mule of my self! LOL!!! [/ QUOTE ] LOL... you NUT.... Sorry I didn't get to this quick enough.... At least now you will be the talk at Cabelas for awhile.... [/ QUOTE ] LMBO! Not really! I was on the phone and the guy asked if I had a PSE, I just said no! I knew he was trying to figure out who it was! LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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