Broadhead VS Bone?


13littleones

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I shot 2 deer last year with my bow. The tip broke off the broadhead afther hitting the front shoulder bone on both of them... both hit in the lungs as well... one went 30 yrds.... the other maybe 50 yrds...

The final results were great but the tip breaking off has me concerned...... should I worry about it... they did do the job..The blades were ate up but stayed intact as well...

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Well I dont want to come off as bashing you but why are you hitting the shoulder bones?

Should be punching lungs and vitals.

I would say without a doubt the broadhead preformed as it should of if you still had 2 dead deer recovered.

BHs are not really designed or made for bone contact but can and should handle it with the proper amount of energy and momentum behind them.

I would not be concerned about the tips breaking off under those conditions.

Now if it were happening on rib bones then yes I would be looking for another head.

JMO

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I don't agree with you VT. I would be concerned about tips breaking. On a perfect shot there will be no shoulder contact, but we all know how often things don't go quite perfectly. I would want my bh to punch through the shoulder with the tip intact. Any breakage of the leading tip, has got to hinder further penetration to a point.

Take a look at some of the bh reviews on BTReviews.com One of his tests is on an actual deer scapula for every bh he tests. You can get some real good comparisons about how different bh's handle the shoulder, by browsing through his tests.

13littleones....which head did the tip fail on, on your 2 deer last year? Just curious.

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Dont get me wrong I would not be happy about them if it happened to me but my guess is a well placed shot would not result in breaking the tips off.

But like you said, things happen and shots are not always 100% where you want them so I would want my BH to take the punishmnet and be good to go again just like the next guy.

To dang expensive for them not to be super solid.

Just saying that the head did the job, and then some, and would not worry about it until it happens on lesser bone or no bone.

Or if worried then just get different heads. LOL

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ok..... the first deer I shot was understandable on why the tip broke off... hit the front shoulder bone almost square and still did the job...

The second one I shot was a surpise to me that the tip broke off... I hit it quartering away,,, went through the rib , hit both lungs then hit the far shoulder bone...

Neither arrow penatrated the skin on the other side...

Cabela's Lazer Strike 100's Mech...... they shoot so well out of my bow !!!... Just don't like the idea of finding a new broadhead....... had to do the last year....

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If you like mech heads then try out the Rocket Line.

Pretty touch heads and fly great in my past experiences.

Any mech head I had tried flew exactly like a field tip so dont worry about that.

JMO

BTW I truely was not bashing you or your shots. You got both deer.

It just seemd weird two shots and 2 shoulder blade hits.

Like you were doing it on purpose. LOL

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Last year I took a a non typical 6 with a shot, a bit more forward that I wanted to, but I hit him square in the shoulder blade thru that, and his heart, with 1/2 the arrow sticking out the other shoulder blade. This buck went down like a ton of bricks when it was hit. I never sat a deer down with a bow before, untill then.

Here is the amazing part...I was using and expandible head, a NAP Shockwave 100gr with Beman380-16's out of a Mathews Outback 65/29"at 20 yards. I did not think the expandibles would expand at all if I hit bone, but I was wrong. I got excellent penetration thru bone with a expandible head and those heads worked fine. Fixed heads will give that peace of mind about cutting on contact, they are strongly manufactured broadheads. Muzzys lead the charge, but I have to say that Montec G5 looks like it will give the Muzzys a run for their money.

I am sold on the Shockwaves after that performance.

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Have used MUZZY heads on all deer x-cept one. Had one buck in close at a slight quartering to shot. I had a clear shot to the vitals so I shot. The deer dropped and the MUZZY hit the shoulder blade, went through the chest clipping the top of the heart, exited the opposite armpit, went through the other foreleg...the arrow was through the leg all but the vanes.....THATS PENETRATION!! I would recommend them to anyone!! grin.gif

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The Cabela's Lazerhead is a pretty close copy to the Rocket Aerohead Sidewinder 3L. The Cabela's heads are substantially cheaper. My guess is probably a little lower grade aluminum is being used in the body to cut costs.

Anyhow, I don't see why the Sidewinder 3L should not fly almost exactly the same.

Not gonna give any bowhunter any grief about hitting shoulder blades. Especially on exit. Quartering away shots are very lethal. You'll hit the opposite shoulder almost everytime though. Heads breaking up then as the deer runs off with it is to be expected.

But the tip busting off on entry would certainly concern me.

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I switched to Muzzys last year and probably won't switch for a long time. Right now there are a lot of quality broadheads on the market though. I killed a doe last year hitting both shoulder blades. Still had a total pass through and an 80 yard recovery, with the only damage to the BH being bent up blades. The ferrel and point were in perfect condition.

If you feel comfortable try something new out, if not stay with what you've got. It sounds like you still got two nice kills. If you're worried about price you'll come out ahead in the long run if you pay a little more now for a better broadhead rather than replacing less expensive ones. Muzzys are priced pretty reasonably.

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