IllinoisArcher Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 im goin boar hunting on the renegaderanch and just found out that its highfenced around 300 acres so i was wondering if this would be just like the jimmy huston deal I can still back out of this so whats all of your guys opinion theres the link below to get more info http://www.renegaderanch.org/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exturkinator Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: Is this right? 300 acres fenced in seems marginal to me... I don't suppose you meant 3000 acres???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllinoisArcher Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: Is this right? Her is what was on the FAQ sheet about this place Isn't this a "canned hunt"? The definition of a "canned hunt" is quite vague. One organization describes it as "the wanton slaughter of a “trophy” animal in a small enclosure". Hunting on the Renegade Ranch does not fit the definition of a canned hunt for a number of reasons. The animals are free to roam over 300 acres of natural, un-tamed land with plenty of cover and hiding places. You must actually HUNT for your animal and they can be quite elusive. The animals are not tame and will not approach you. The animals are not chased by vehicles nor are they drugged to make them slower. You are not guaranteed a perfect shot at your prey nor are you even guaranteed to see it. Hunting at the Renegade Ranch is not simple "target practice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: Is this right? The fact that they have to defend it would make me back out .... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: Is this right? it's a canned hunt. i don't care if it 30,000 acres, it's not fair chase. here's a real simple thing to ask... if you kill a pope & young or boone & crockett animal on this hunt, can it be entered? yes means it's fair chase, no means it's canned. get a simple yes or no before you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? 300 accres is a canned hunt to me.JMO but if you ask me 30,000 acres fenced in is not free range either,if theres a fence period there is nothing free about it. i have been looking for a hog hunt myself nd we are thinking texas. this website we saw is advertised all over the internet. but i never asked about fences,i'll go check and find the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? JMO but to me that is a canned hunt. I would back out since i would still be able to. JMO. I dont think any high fenced hunting is right no matter how much land is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? hey i just got of the phone with the guy the web is www.wildhoghunt.com and he is fenced and didn't put it on his sight that fries me!!!!!!!!!!!!! but he said they have 2000 acres under fence and the hogs route through breakin fences and empty his exotic animal feeders and breed and tear everything up so he offers cheap hunts to get rid of them. the are supposedly completely wild. he sounded like a nice guy and was honest about the fences but i don't know about huntin inside ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? You decide if it's right for you! Nobody else has the right to say it is or it is not. It's Legal!!! No disrespect Steve B....but when did Pope and Young start making decisions for other people? There are many people who could care less if they ever get a "Book" animal. They are out there for the thrill of the hunt and P&Y does not define that for them in any way. I know I dont have the physical dexterity or the awesome senses of smell, hearing, or eye-sight that wild animals have(even ones inside a fence)...but you could use everything except night vision goggles and infa-red scopes and even I could hide from most everyone on 30,000 acres. Dont attempt to tell me that an animal with natural instincts cant do the same We often reach a near "Praise" of our adversary the Whitetail and extole their instincts to reaching near miracle abilities to elude us....why does an area with a fence take that ability away from them? Hogs are not much different in their enviroment! They have learned it beyond our comprehension...they should...they live there everyday. I can put you on property I know of in Florida that you would be extremely lucky to even see a hog. You could go from Cypress bog to Cypress bog and wade through some of the thickest bush you have ever seen. Hog sign everywhere...Wallows, Tree rubs, and plenty of hogs you can hear. Good luck shooting one of them...they have everything they need to survive and all this on 135 acres. They are rarely ever seen out in the fields that surround this area either. The people who live in houses that are in most of those fields dont have them coming into their yards...so in a way they are fenced in that area. I can gaurantee anyone that if they were dropped off in the middle of it they could not tell if it was 135 or 135,000 acres. It may be only 135 acres but you walk around in that jungle with the snakes and gators and I promise you will redefine the word "Challenge" when you get back out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? In Arkansas Hogs aren't considered wild game, they are classified as neusence animals. I don't think I would have a problem shooting one if I wanted to pay for it. However, it's not quite the same as going out in the swamps here and getting them the hard way. But then neither is sitting in a box blind at the Y-O Ranch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? What's all the fuss about shooting hogs in a fence. Hogs are not game animals, they are simply feral livestock.In Texas there is no limit or season because they are a problem out of control. Hunting high fences is not a cake walk, there are several operations in Texas that have some rough country and inside some big fences and I assure you that the hunting is just as hard as a place with no fence. I do agree that 300acres is not alot and I would probably not hunt it myself if it were deer hunting. I actually prefer NOT to hunt fences, but I think guys who have never hunted a fence should not be so quick to assume that it is a canned hunt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cshippy Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? I'm not into fence hunting, but hogs are a neusence animal. I can see both ways, but its not my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? I'd say let's get the coals ready and put the hog on. If it's a nuisance animal then you are no different than paying for beef at the market. I just think this is a version of selecting your meat directly and with your own hands. If you were looking to make a mount out of it and display it prominantly as a trophy then I'd say just don't. Good eats is all. Good luck and have fun picking your bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? Hey, we're talkin wild Boar here right. Those dang critters belong behind a high-fence. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? While 300 acres is small and would seem to me to be a small enclosure possibly qualifying it as what some will consider to be a canned hunt, fence or not you need to make the decision for yourself that best satisfies you. Personally dont care about the books, and it is not like you are hunting a deer in an enclosure. You are going to kill some hogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? [ QUOTE ] ... he said they have 2000 acres under fence and the hogs route through breakin fences and empty his exotic animal feeders and breed and tear everything up so he offers cheap hunts to get rid of them. [/ QUOTE ] There you go. You can't fence hogs IN or OUT unless you build something ridiculuosly solid. They'll go through or under any barbed wire or net wire fence almost like it wasn't even there. As to the size of the place, here's something to judge it by. 300 acres is approximately 1/2 square mile. If it were rectanguler, that would make it 1/2 mile wide by 1 mile long. Is that enough room to give you a quality hunting experience? That's strictly your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? Its not my cup of tea. Like hunting were there are no fences. Its up to you and you alone to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? 300 acres is small but it almost garuntees a hog. If it was 3,000 high fenced acres I would be all over it for hogs but for deer I wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetailkiller Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: Is this right? [ QUOTE ] The fact that they have to defend it would make me back out .... Steve [/ QUOTE ] me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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