Jeramie Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I bought a 2001 Optima 3-months ago (roughly). Many of your will remember my brag post.... This is my anti brag post. It quit about 10-days ago and Ive been in a mad scramble to find out what is wrong with the car. My F150 cost me $25 a day compared to the $8 of the KIA. Finally I get a hold of the local KIA dealer. He does his best to get me to Commit to service over the phone with, "What was your last name again? I want to be sure to get you scheduled in to have this fixed." He then tells me to expect repairs of $1,100 plus for..... Dum, dum, dum..... A timing belt. Granted he hasn't even seen the car but another KIA provided the same results at the same cost. They then tell me that its at least $1,100 and if the belt breaks I'm looking at a news engine (I understand how that works). Regardless, Ive had this car for 3-months and put roughly 11k miles on it. Now all of a sudden I have to Pony up at least $1,100 just to get it to run! I'm so fumed. Ive owned many, many cars and Ive never had one go down at 65k miles, especially to this degree! They advertise their 100k mile warranty, guess what.... Thats only if you're the original owner. So now I have a 6k car sitting in my drive way looking at $1,100 for just a stinking timing belt and the way the dealers are talking... It could and probably will cost more. Never again KIA and I promise, you will get no good feedback from me. Ive never seen a car go down with 65k original miles on it. Pile of junk..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Boy sounds like my luck. How much did you pay for the car? Should have bought Ford Fiesta........LOL. Hope you get it taken care of though I doubt Kia will be any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007hunter Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! 65K miles on it and it needs a new timing belt? So what they are saying is that the timing is off and thats why it won't run properly? I'm not a fan of Kia by any means and they definately wouldn't have been my #1 choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ptbuckpa Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! My aunt has a rio and it has cost so much money in repairs she is the original owner with the 100k warranty but everytime something happened they were like no thats not covered nope neither is that. their vehicles are poop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! WOW!! All of a sudden gas is cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! I'm not a fan of KIA either but I drive 55 miles one way. I needed something with remotely low miles for the price. It was bar none the best deal (or so I thought). As far as miles and such it was really taken care of. An old couple owned it and only drove locally. From everything I read they were suppose to be good cars, especially the Optima. Thats one of their better cars. Come to find out the belt has to be changed at 60k on all Kia's. Btw Hutch, I payed 6K for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! My mechanic told me something similar about my wifes Hyundai. He said that many of the timing belts are going bad and they are not covered under that so-called awesome warantee of theirs. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Most of those foreign products are junk. No offence to anyone that owns one, but they are. Honda, Toyota and Nissan aren't bad, but their japanese. Kia, Hyundai, Daewoo etc are Korean junk! We have Daewoo engines in our Chevy Aveo's, Optra's and Epica's. They are all garbage. I'd rather spend an extra $10 grand and get something good that you don't have to keep dumping money into. You'll never hear me reccomend them. Anything I own will always have a gold bowtie on the front... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! I highly doubt the engine is damaged enough to need to be replace.Sounds like the dealer is trying to take advantage of a bad situation.I've had two timing chains break on me in the past and never did any engine damage.I would try to find someplace else to take it to for the repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! [ QUOTE ] I highly doubt the engine is damaged enough to need to be replace.Sounds like the dealer is trying to take advantage of a bad situation.I've had two timing chains break on me in the past and never did any engine damage.I would try to find someplace else to take it to for the repair. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the same thing. If it bent the valves they can be replaced. But sometimes they'll crack the piston and therefore they have to be replaced. Depending how many cylinders were effected it may be cheaper in the long run to get a new engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! [ QUOTE ] I highly doubt the engine is damaged enough to need to be replace.Sounds like the dealer is trying to take advantage of a bad situation.I've had two timing chains break on me in the past and never did any engine damage.I would try to find someplace else to take it to for the repair. [/ QUOTE ] Thats what I thought too. I wouldnt let him replace the thing before I took a look at it. However, my boss was telling me that his belt broke in his VW and it trashed the valves. Of course he had way over 100k on the motor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! [ QUOTE ] Btw Hutch, I payed 6K for it. [/ QUOTE ] I was afraid you would say something like that. Man that stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllinoisArcher Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! KIA= Killed In Action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Something you need to think about if you haven't already, if the belt is only good for 60,000, you are looking at doing this once a year. Is that really where you want to be, maybe fix and sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Im about 75% sure thats what im going to do. This thing is about to hit the lot again. I was really wanting a front wheel drive to help with ice and stuff this winter but I may just bit the bullet and buy a Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! A ranger! That's like getting out of the frying pan and into the fire. CHEVROLET PLEASE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Oh now! Dont knock the fords. I have worked my Fords to death and have never had one lay down on me. Thats not to say im not a fan of Chevy, I just dont participate in that debate. I have an honest love for them both. IMHO the two best motors ever built were the 350 and 302, in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washi Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Interference engines are bad. You break a timing belt and your pistons slam into your valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Sorry to hear that. I know the feeling. Two weeks after an oil change on my old car, the motor broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest huntinsanobsession Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! if you want something with good gas mileage i don't know if the ranger is your best bet i get the same milage outta my 03 ranger that my dad gets outta his seirra 1500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Sounds like Nikon customer service. Sorry to hear that Jearamie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! [ QUOTE ] Sounds like Nikon customer service. [/ QUOTE ] ROFLMAO! Geez, that horse must be through to China by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! now, go back up and read shaun 300 first post... something about junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! IMO I don't care WHOSE vehicle it is. If the motor has a timing belt instead of a timing chain and you don't change it every 60,000miles you're asking for trouble. BTW, lots of different manufacturers have belts instead of chains in their cars. Timing chains are often good up to 200,000 but don't push it. There are plenty of things that can shorten the life of a chain too. These aren't items you wait to break before you replace them. The expense after one breaks is much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Re: So Much For KIA! Sorry to hear. Hope it all works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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