Randyman Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Here we go again criticizing fellow hunters because of something legal that she did in another country no less and all because of who her husband is. Pathetic to say the least. Some of the same people criticizing her are the same ones that gripe when they see PETA ads hurting our efforts and yet we do it for them for free right here. Doesn't PETA also question what we're going to do with the meat as well and try to compare it to DOMESTICATED ANIMALS like PONY'S? Think folks think!!!!!!!! With no facts at all to support a claim that she did anything wrong, no less than 8 comments criticized her or her husband and all with no proof of wrong doing. 40 lbs on a new bow with cut on impact heads like Ted uses is more than enough. Think about it. Your local department of natural resources don't think that 39 lbs is gonna bounce off. They always go for a sure fire kill poundage. Celebrate her kill and great shooting and spreading of our heritage and stop being so pompous about your own self righteousness. [/ QUOTE ] AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Here we go again criticizing fellow hunters because of something legal that she did in another country no less and all because of who her husband is. Pathetic to say the least. Some of the same people criticizing her are the same ones that gripe when they see PETA ads hurting our efforts and yet we do it for them for free right here. Doesn't PETA also question what we're going to do with the meat as well and try to compare it to DOMESTICATED ANIMALS like PONY'S? Think folks think!!!!!!!! With no facts at all to support a claim that she did anything wrong, no less than 8 comments criticized her or her husband and all with no proof of wrong doing. 40 lbs on a new bow with cut on impact heads like Ted uses is more than enough. Think about it. Your local department of natural resources don't think that 39 lbs is gonna bounce off. They always go for a sure fire kill poundage. Celebrate her kill and great shooting and spreading of our heritage and stop being so pompous about your own self righteousness. [/ QUOTE ] You got a lotta nerve calling people here "pompous and self-righteous". Know what this : means??????? It means don't take this seriously. I could care less if she shot a stupid zebra. Just curious if people really ate them. OK???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Heck you could kill a Zebra with a hammer if you was close enough and hit it in the right spot. [/ QUOTE ] That's funny right there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. If it stopped then I wouldn't feel the need to say people are pompous and self rightous!!! Know what this means.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. I have leqarned alot since i joined realtree...one of the main things i learned was that people have THEIR OWN opinions on what is ethical and what is not...if people think that 40lbs was to light for her to shoot it then so be it....i used to get worked up over things like that but i realized that peoples opinions don't have to be the same as mine...and i don't need to waste my energy trying to convince them to change there opinion....i personally think that it might be to light of a draw weight as well..MIGHT BE...don't know all the facts...have never seen a zebra or know what they are "built" like...and have no i dea how far of a shot it was...if it was a close shot..say 20 yards or closer...then it should be fine...but any longer than that, to me..doesn't seem right....but thats my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. I'll tell ya, it's topics like these that I wish Vicki C. and Tiffinay L. would comment on.... I bet they have an insight on this that we couldn't possibly have... I've seen the Nuge's wife shoot on TV, and if it's any indication of how she can actually shoot,,, my opinion is that 40 lbs. is more than enough to get the job done on an Zebra... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] I'll tell ya, it's topics like these that I wish Vicki C. and Tiffinay L. would comment on.... I bet they have an insight on this that we couldn't possibly have... [/ QUOTE ] Tiffany, maybe. But I bet Vicki shoots more poundage than Ralph!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] I've seen the Nuge's wife shoot on TV, and if it's any indication of how she can actually shoot,,, my opinion is that 40 lbs. is more than enough to get the job done on an Zebra... [/ QUOTE ] I believe you are right, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Tiffany, maybe. But I bet Vicki shoots more poundage than Ralph!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] LOL... You're right I didn't think of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Tiffany, maybe. But I bet Vicki shoots more poundage than Ralph!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] I think Vicki was shooting 58 pounds on a recent show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODH Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. guys guys, It's ALL about shot placement, not fps, and poundage. UNLESS your shooting a rhino or hippo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. Whoa Whoa Whoa! Back up the train. How in the name of Pete did I get Criticized and called Pompus for having an opinion? Last time I checked thats what this forum was all about. I never said a word about her as a hunter but I do infact have the right to disagree with pulling 40lbs on African game. Peta will continue to make up their information and find those hunters who are more then lax to use as poster children. [ QUOTE ] Here we go again criticizing fellow hunters because of something legal that she did in another country no less and all because of who her husband is. [/ QUOTE ] You need to read the post and not throw personal opinion in on mine. I dont care who she is. And again, im allowed to have an opinion. Im not standing on a street corner with a picket sign. Im simply stating personal opinion. [ QUOTE ] Pathetic to say the least. Some of the same people criticizing her are the same ones that gripe when they see PETA ads hurting our efforts and yet we do it for them for free right here. [/ QUOTE ] Im sorry but thats a load. No one posted pics of a Mink being skinned alive. What in the world is any system without checks and balances? If you and I are out deer hunting and I take a paunch shot on a running doe are you suppose to act as if you agree or keep quiet completley? Or are you simply not to have an opinion because its legal? I see nothing wrong with hunters calling out others, especially with hunters on TV. This falls into the same post ive started about pro's climbing into stands with a gun in their hands. Technically its not illegal but not advisable. I guess we all just better overlook that..... [ QUOTE ] With no facts at all to support a claim that she did anything wrong, no less than 8 comments criticized her or her husband and all with no proof of wrong doing. 40 lbs on a new bow with cut on impact heads like Ted uses is more than enough. Think about it. Your local department of natural resources don't think that 39 lbs is gonna bounce off. They always go for a sure fire kill poundage. [/ QUOTE ] Our state law is 40lbs on deer that often average 100lbs. Thats why a 40lb bow on an animal very compariable to a donkey or mule, seemed very light to me. Again, my Opinion. [ QUOTE ] Celebrate her kill and great shooting and spreading of our heritage and stop being so pompous about your own self righteousness. [/ QUOTE ] Ill have to admit, that really ticks me off. I am in no way bragging myself up or being set on a pedastool. I have personally introduced a lof of people to hunting and fishing. Ive done what I could in my own corner of the world for the sports. For you to leave a comment like that burns me to the end. Where in the world do you get off telling someone they are pompous or self righteous because they have opinions about something? If you were in a PETA forum I would understand. Those people have no basis for the comment but for you to call fellow hunters Pompous and Self Righteous for having an opinion about something most of us feel we are remotely qualified to have an opinion about is plain wrong. So before you get on your soapbox and start running other hunters through the ringer you need to keep in mind who you are putting down for having an opinion and start having a little more consideration for those youre are talking to. You used your right to an opinion to put down and label fellow hunters. You probably havent met 1/4 of the people you were so quick to label so your opinion just lost loads of value imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Our state law is 40lbs on deer that often average 100lbs. [/ QUOTE ] Here in New York a Bows minimum draw weight for hunting Big Game is 35# and "Pass Thru's" with that weight while not common do happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Here we go again criticizing fellow hunters because of something legal that she did in another country no less and all because of who her husband is. Pathetic to say the least. Some of the same people criticizing her are the same ones that gripe when they see PETA ads hurting our efforts and yet we do it for them for free right here. Doesn't PETA also question what we're going to do with the meat as well and try to compare it to DOMESTICATED ANIMALS like PONY'S? Think folks think!!!!!!!! With no facts at all to support a claim that she did anything wrong, no less than 8 comments criticized her or her husband and all with no proof of wrong doing. 40 lbs on a new bow with cut on impact heads like Ted uses is more than enough. Think about it. Your local department of natural resources don't think that 39 lbs is gonna bounce off. They always go for a sure fire kill poundage. Celebrate her kill and great shooting and spreading of our heritage and stop being so pompous about your own self righteousness. [/ QUOTE ] Aint THAT the pot calling the kettle black!!! Ya know, I TRIED to let this slide, but YOU should have NEVER called me out by name Interesting. YOU come in here CRITICIZING US for "criticizing" someone else. HMMMM, To me, you ain't ne different in that aspect!!!!! Maybe you should read Jeramies 2nd post, and take that to heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123 4/8 P&Y Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. Horses have pretty thin skin, right? I've always considered them pretty fragile animals. Wouldn't a Zebra be very similar to a horse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitteken Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. We're beating a dead zebra here. Lets hug and go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Horses have pretty thin skin, right? I've always considered them pretty fragile animals. Wouldn't a Zebra be very similar to a horse? [/ QUOTE ] Not exactly. Honestly different breeds of horses have different builds (much like other animals). A buckskin and a thoroughbred will have different builds and hides. The same can be said for workhorses such as Belgium, Clydesdales, mules, and donkeys. Anyone who has been around horses will tell you that a Donkey or Mule both have thicker hides then a run of the meal saddle horse. They are simply tougher animals. Zebra's are very much on that plane. They even had a segment where Ted talked for several minutes about this and talked about the Armor these animals carry under thier skin. On several occasions he refered to their bones as "Concrete" and he hit that nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] We're beating a dead zebra here. Lets hug and go on. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob_D Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. My opinion...... 1) She shot at a Zebra with above stated setup. 2)Said Zebra died as a result of the shot. My conclusion: As a result of a properly placed shot, the setup was sufficient to kill a zebra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoytShooter8 Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. Wow, this topic seems to bring out many opinions, but ya'll only watched the edited version of this hunt. In the unedited version I was able to watch, Ted full of guilt actually interviewed the Zebra just before it died, and when he asked if 40# was enough draw weight to hunt ethically, the Zebra shook it's head one time, and told Ted he would see him at dinner... The animal would have met a far more "unethical" end to it's life in the mouth of a "Lion!!" (I don't think they have a draw weight they hunt by), in fact they just tear their prey apart...or a pack of Hieenas, or the Buzzards that would clean up the left overs... My opinion is this, I will not judge her for anything, she took the animal and I'm sure a village there is still benifiting from her kill. They don't have Mcdonalds in Africa so I imagine Zebra burgers and steaks are pretty good. Most of the opinons I've read are from an American mindset and point of view, but from an African hunters point of view.. I say this..... "Zebra...... It's what's for Dinner...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123 4/8 P&Y Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Horses have pretty thin skin, right? I've always considered them pretty fragile animals. Wouldn't a Zebra be very similar to a horse? [/ QUOTE ] Not exactly. Honestly different breeds of horses have different builds (much like other animals). A buckskin and a thoroughbred will have different builds and hides. The same can be said for workhorses such as Belgium, Clydesdales, mules, and donkeys. Anyone who has been around horses will tell you that a Donkey or Mule both have thicker hides then a run of the meal saddle horse. They are simply tougher animals. Zebra's are very much on that plane. They even had a segment where Ted talked for several minutes about this and talked about the Armor these animals carry under thier skin. On several occasions he refered to their bones as "Concrete" and he hit that nail on the head. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Jeramie. That was a good explanation. I never knew that stuff about horses and mules and donkeys. I ride 4-wheelers instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Re: The Nuge\'s wife.. [ QUOTE ] Horses have pretty thin skin, right? I've always considered them pretty fragile animals. Wouldn't a Zebra be very similar to a horse? [/ QUOTE ] What I always assumed, however zebras do live in the heat and sun of africa so they probably do have bit thicker skin than a common horse. Even still a razor sharp broadhead flying froma 40 lb bow would without a doubt be in my opinion more than efficient in the hands of a competent archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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