arrow32 Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Anyone tried this stuff does it attract deer very well? Im going to be giving it a try. Going to pick some of it up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? It works about the same as most minerals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
257bob Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I have seen Deer Cane work extremely well in Iowa. I have also not been around any other brands, so I don't know if they all work the same. I know that all of those products (Deer Cane, Stump Licker, etc.)worked in Iowa. Just to get this out, I know it is illegal in Iowa to hunt over attractants and I didn't break any laws. I know somebody is chomping at the finger tips to tell me I'm doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? We've had great luck with it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? Thats good to hear. Cant hunt over them here either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? If you do a search or another post you will find homemade recipes deer cane. It can be made at a fraction of the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo_hunter Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I like the black magic made by deer cane, it works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetro Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? [ QUOTE ] If you do a search or another post you will find homemade recipes deer cane. It can be made at a fraction of the cost. [/ QUOTE ] If anyone find the post, can you put up a link. I checked fo rit but no luck. I might try the recipe to see if it'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MonsterBuckMatt Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? i have tried it and sometimes it seems to work and sometimes it doesnt. it just cant beat a few bags of corn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo_hunter Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you do a search or another post you will find homemade recipes deer cane. It can be made at a fraction of the cost. [/ QUOTE ] If anyone find the post, can you put up a link. I checked fo rit but no luck. I might try the recipe to see if it'll work. [/ QUOTE ] Here is a great one HOMEMADE DEER MINERAL RECIPE by Allen “horntagger” Morris This was passed to me from a private land conservationist from Missouri Department of Conservation in the county I have land in. This is just one example of how working with any game and fish department can benefit you. So now I am passing it along to you. You will be amazed on how well this works. The ultimate goal of mineral supplements in deer management is to increase antler size and improve overall health of deer herds by providing minerals or trace minerals that may be lacking in a given area. Although the jury is still out on effects of mineral supplements on wild deer populations since most studies have been on pen raised deer. Studies on wild population have been inconclusive and to a degree the same on pen raised deer due to other variables such as supplemental feeding that takes place in these areas. The direct benefits will probably be far greater in certain regions that lack certain trace minerals in the soil and plants. One mixture or home recipe of deer minerals we recommend to landowners is a mix of one part Dicalcium Phosphate, 2 parts trace mineral salt (loose), and 1 part loose stock salt. All of these are available to purchase at most local feed and farm supply stores. Just to give you a little background on these minerals and what they are designed to do lets start with the Dicalcium Phosphate. Dicalcium phosphate is used primarily as dairy cattle feed additive and other animal feeds. It promotes feed digestion, weight gain, and milk production, which is obviously beneficial to a lactating doe deer. Dicalcium phosphate contains roughly between 18 and 21 percent phosphorus and 19 to 23 percent calcium. You're probably asking why this is important by now. Well if your talking about growing antlers on deer you need to take a look at what is the make up of a deer antler. Hardened antlers contain 40 to 50 percent organic matter from mostly proteins while the most abundant minerals consist of calcium and phosphorus. The demands for these minerals on a daily basis can be significant for antler production. In addition, a lactating doe's milk contains high percentages of both calcium and phosphorus to pass on to their young, also causing a significant mineral drain on the doe. What makes all this significant is the fact that phosphorous cannot be synthesized by the body so it must be provided in needed levels in the animals diet. This is where a mineral mix such as this could be very valuable if an area is lacking in these naturally. August 18th, 2001 Trace mineral salts do two things for deer. The first and foremost is it does have the salt/sodium to attract the deer and promote the use of the mineral. Secondly, it provides the trace minerals such as magnesium and potassium that are very important to herd health but are not found in significant quantities like others. Stock salt is again like part of the above. It has the sodium to attract deer to the minerals. Most mineral mixes have salt as their most abundant ingredient since a mix of just phosphorus, calcium, and other trace minerals have little attraction to deer once mixed with the soil. As for directions of use we suggest using a 3-pound coffee can to measure out 1 part dicalcium phoshate, 2 parts trace mineral salt, and 1 part stock salt. Mix all these together once ready to use but keep components separate during storage. Dig a hole in the soil about 36 inches wide and 6 inches deep and mix the mineral well with the soil. This should be replenished after 6 months and then once a year thereafter. Most use seems to be during the spring and summer months on mineral licks. It's a good idea to keep these areas replenished and stocked in the same spot to maintain use. Because of shedding of the summer coat begins this time of year, the deer need the salt, and maybe next year you will get this out early in the year to help with antler growth and fawn health. Mineral Lick November 14th, 2001 WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE Printable version Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00 1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag. 2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags. 1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag. Directions: -Use a 3 pound or similar size coffee can to use as your measure for each part of the mix. -Mix all together well but not until read to use, keep ingredients separate until ready to put to use. -Dig or tear up a circle in the soil about 36 inches wide and about 6 inches deep. -Mix your mineral mixture with the soil. Maintenance: -Replenish in 6 months with fresh supply of mineral, and then each year there after. Hope to see you in the woods this weekend. horntagger KEEPING TRACK By Allen “horntagger” Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybertech_hound819 Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? i tryed co-cain this year at 2 diffrent spots and there are a few deer using it but not hard so im not to convinced that it works like they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? Here is a recipe tha Finn shared with me sometime back. 50 pounds: 18.5 Dicalcium Phosphate 50 pounds: 18/18 Hy-phos 1 bag green 50 pounds: Kandy Kid Stockade Dried Molasses 150 pounds: Trace Mineral Salt We get this from Fleet Farm in Wisconsin for around $50. We mix it and store in a covered 55 gallon barrel, then put out 5 gallons at a time every 3-4 months. Pour it right on the ground or on an old stump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I got a bag of black magic and am going to give it a try and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BRONZEBACK Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I have used it for a couple years, I raked a 4 ft. by 4ft. circle ( down to dirt) I then removed enough soil so that when it rains it will pool up a bit. Then I sprinkled the " Black magic" and left it for about 2 1/2 weeks. I came back and it was about 10 ft. by 10ft. Granted, it rained pretty good those weeks, which activates it a lot. They love it and so do I!!! I dump a new bag each 60 days. They are still using the one from last year, I havent "recharged" that one since last spring! You would have thought I dumped a new bag on it!!! I have sandy soil and so 60 days is the longest you want to go untill you dump a new bag! Good luck, I recomend it.............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? [ QUOTE ] i tryed co-cain this year at 2 diffrent spots and there are a few deer using it but not hard so im not to convinced that it works like they say [/ QUOTE ] I used it a few years ago and had the same feeling you do. It says on the bottle that you should place it near water. My brother and I have out two best sites near waterholes and those are getting hit very very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdickey Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? Mineral supplements may work great in some areas, and not so great in others. We tried Deer Cane for several years around Fredericksburg, Texas and it did well. But we started hunting in west Texas, and the deer never bothered it. Switched to BuckGrub several years ago, and have had a tremendous response with it. Except, I do not use it on the ground, but use it in our feeders instead. Seems to work as well and last much longer since it does not become dissipated by dew or rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetailkiller Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? it works real well.....although i prefere whitetail institutes 30-06 mineral suppliment......good luck!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? The deer literally pound the stuff in teh smmer on our land. Come hunting season though it never gets touches. i will post some pics of our holes later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousoonerfan22 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I've tried the deer cane at three different places miles from each other with no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? $8.99 for 6.5 pounds of minerals? WOW, that's alot of money for salt. We make our own and it's around $50 for 300 pounds. Ranger posted the mix we use above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad dryden Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? Ive had Good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NCSUHunter829 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? stick with corn! I've seen it produce deer in the area faster than deer cane. Although deer cane does work I think it just takes longer to attract deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? I went out to the farm yesterday and put it out. Cant wait to see if it works. Finn does that mix you use work just as well as buying it. Made out of the same things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Re: Deer cane?? [ QUOTE ] I went out to the farm yesterday and put it out. Cant wait to see if it works. Finn does that mix you use work just as well as buying it. Made out of the same things? [/ QUOTE ] Not finn, but can answer that for you arrow. Minerals pretty well all work about the same. What you are giving the animals in the mix that finn mentions in all reality is probably better for the deer than say deer cane and most of the commercial products. If you wanted to you could by all means use a plain trace mineral salt block and have deer come to your mieral site. I have used several different mineral attractants including mixing my own over the years. Have found that our best results do come from the trophy rock, but that all mineral attractants will see activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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