Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 well this year i wanted to change my setup a little. i figured that with a good arrow and good broadheads and new fletching i could get perfect arrow flight .. WRONG! i had my new Goldtip 5575 Pro Hunters fletched up with the new 2 inch Blazers. i put Muzzy 100 4 blade broadheads on them and they do not fly very good at all... lets say they fly like poop... the field tips fly just perfect. i tuned and poked and prodded and twisted and heated and turned and moved and STILL couldnt get them 4 bladed 100s to fly good. i was very . so tonight i put my old Muzzy 3 bladed 75 gr on those arrows. i figured that it was either the broadheads or the fletching that didnt agree with each other. what happened was just like it supposed to be. perfect arrow flight and i mean dead on out to 50 yards. i put a hole in my broadhead deer target because i hammered it so much. i need to get a new replacement center now.. the field points are just about a 1/2 inch off of the broadheads. which i can live with. kind of funny how the 4 bladed broadheads and them Blazers just didnt work but the 3 bladed 75s worked just fine. i think i could get the Muzzys 4 blades to work better with a bigger fletch. why do we change what works so well for us. i could have just save myself a lot of anxiety and confusion and worry by just sticking with what works. anyways im good to go now. Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Because we like to play around! My Muzzy three blades like the Blazers too! But then, I havent tried anything else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Interesting. I haven't tried to tune anything buy Muzzy 4-blades with my setup. I shot the 4-blades last year and they flew great. This year I am trying the MX-4's though. Fly great so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? i haven't shot my muzzys with blazers yet...i tried the 3 blade 125s with my aluminums about 2 months ago (4 inch vanes) flew just like my field tips...changes to gold tip arrows(3 inches shorter,with wraps and 100grains instead of 125s) and added 8 pounds to my draw weight..resighted in with field tips...the muzzys would hit even close...they were about 5 inchs right and about 4 inches low...i do have a few arrows with blazers fletched up, i am gunna have to try....i have shot that free sonic broadhead with my 4 inch vanes...flew great...tried it with the blazers....didn't fly well at all...i think i am going to stick with the good ole Grim reapers this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cybertechCC Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Been using mechnaicals for years because of the good arrow flight I had with them. Wanted to try the Sonics because I want a fixed-blade and they were supposed to fly like field points. Never happened. I shot the Sonics with both Blazer vanes and 4-inch fletched arrows and not only did they not hit where my field points hit, I could not even get them to group at 11 yards. Put the spitfires back on and put the Sonics away. I even used different spined arrows and nothing seemed to work. Kinda like rifle shooting I guess. You try different combinations of components until you find what works. That for me is the fun of it. Just wish it didn't cost so much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Change is sometimes good Tony but sometimes change makes us scratch our heads. Just hope the guys who are last minute take the time to practice with their set-ups instead of the night before opening the package and putting the broadhead on without tuning their bow. You just know there are hundreds if not thousands out there that do that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Because it's there.... Glad you got your setup flying good again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? [ QUOTE ] Interesting. I haven't tried to tune anything buy Muzzy 4-blades with my setup. I shot the 4-blades last year and they flew great. This year I am trying the MX-4's though. Fly great so far. [/ QUOTE ] Matt whats your setup for the Muzzy 4 blades ? Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Tony, when I had my HC, those blades were always dead on with FP. Now with my SB, they were off, but I later found out it was out of tune, once I got it tuned, they to were dead on with FP........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? i cant figure it either Gator. somethings screwy and i just dont have the time or access to the shop like i used to to find out. so i went back to my old reliable Muzzy 75 3 blades. those 4 blades are great broadheads, i just think that i need a little more fletch to get them to work. i think i will hang on to them for a little while to make some tests with them. i want to see if a little longer fletch will help them. Shoot strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikekiller Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Tony..I switched to 4 blade muzzys after years of shooting 100 gr 3 blades. I found that mine grouped well but were about 3" lower then my FP...I just adjusted my sights accordingly. I shoot 4 inch vanes...so yeah going to a different fletch may help...lets us know how it turns out. Good luck this year John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bbarnett51 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? I tried 4 blade muzzys and had 2 group well and one that was consistantly all over the place. Why? I have no idea!!!! They will not be in my quiver this year. I am goin with sonics and tekans. They both fly right with my field tips at 45 yds. Love em both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubWSR Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Tony I dont really know if this is valid or not, but maybe with the really light blazers on the back with no wrap or anything the 100 grain over the 75 you used to shoot is making your foc to far forward??? I dont really know too much about your arrow length or anything like that but it could be an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Though it's taking alot for granted that could also be wrong...I would first look at using a G-5 ASD on the inserts. I did this last year in preparation for using fixed blade BH's this season shooting out of a ground blind with screens...Afterwards I could cut off the previous arrows fletchings with the next broadhead tipped arrow if I shot them in groups. I have to admit that with my personal experience the G-5 ASD is Not a Gimmick!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikekiller Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? [ QUOTE ] Though it's taking alot for granted that could also be wrong...I would first look at using a G-5 ASD on the inserts. I did this last year in preparation for using fixed blade BH's this season shooting out of a ground blind with screens...Afterwards I could cut off the previous arrows fletchings with the next broadhead tipped arrow if I shot them in groups. I have to admit that with my personal experience the G-5 ASD is Not a Gimmick!!! [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the above...I have a ASD also and i really feel it helps with broadhead flight...that and the magnock system makes broadhead tuning a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Though it's taking alot for granted that could also be wrong...I would first look at using a G-5 ASD on the inserts. I did this last year in preparation for using fixed blade BH's this season shooting out of a ground blind with screens...Afterwards I could cut off the previous arrows fletchings with the next broadhead tipped arrow if I shot them in groups. I have to admit that with my personal experience the G-5 ASD is Not a Gimmick!!! [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the above...I have a ASD also and i really feel it helps with broadhead flight...that and the magnock system makes broadhead tuning a lot easier. [/ QUOTE ] I also agree! Since I bought this tool, I have way less problems with my broadheads. They spin true. When I get arrows cut, I tell them to not glue the inserts, Ill do them after I square the end of the shaft. Then once the inserts are glued on and dry, Ill run then through again to make the inserts square to the shaft. Also, when glueing the inserts on, they get glue all around, as they go into the shaft they get twisted a full revolution and pushed down all the way. After doing all this the broadheads run true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhbowhunter Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? I don't change when something works well. I will always shoot the same arrows, with the same broadheads, with the same relaese, every year. I don't have time or energy to waste on fiddling with something that works extremely well. Every year one of my friends tries to change something up for no other reason then "I'd like to try a change". Money gets spent (sometimes a lot), and time is spent adjusting adapting etc. Inevitablly I hear "I don't have enough time to tune my rig, and scout, and gee cash is tight b/c I bought all this new stuff to fiddle with..." mean while my PSE stingrays shoot dead on year after year with proper maintanence. The time my buddies spend fiddling with new stuff I spend finding another stand location, scouting that buck, or talking with a landowner and getting permission to hunt. Maybe my attitude is odd, maybe I am lucky to have found setups that work. I don't hunt because I like to play with new gadgets. I buy and stick with what works without exception. My stingrays will always shoot xx78 superslams with 3 blade 100 grain muzzys. I do not experiment with my bow unless I am buying a new one OR something breaks on an existing one and even then I try and buy an identical replacement component. I have never had anyone give me a compelling reason to switch equipment on my bows. 1. Switch to mechanicals they fly like field points" - I can put three muzzys within an inch of each other, why would I want to mess with that? 2. "Switch to carbons they are lighter and faster" - I have bear, deer, moose, and elk on the wall 10 - 40 yd shots the Superslam moved fast enough to get them unless game has become bionic and moves at lightspeed... 3. "You gotta try this new site" - See #1, my current site is a part of why I can do that. For me, once I get a bow setup that is 100% I won't change it. There are many other facets of my hunting game that I can improve, the bow, once dialed in is not something I want to keep revisiting and playing around with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Alot of people change for multiple reasons. If you are like me it is because of an Archery Addiction. Muzzy 4 blades are flying great for me. That is what I will be shooting this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhbowhunter Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Broadhead tuning problems. why do we change? Everyone has their own reasons for changing, and I respect them all, for me and my advise to anyone one else is to look at other professional sports. All of your top notch althletes have custom made clubs, bats, raquets etc. Once they find equipment that is 100% dialed-in they will not change, instead they focus on form, execution, stamina, strategy. You do not see Tiger Woods changing clubs every tournament, or (although he is a steroid freak) Barry Bonds using a bat made of ash one game then a bat made of maple the next (I think his bats are custom maple), they keep the tool constant because in the end the biggest gains to be made are in form, strategy, and technique... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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