Jeramie Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I understand where people are so quick to forgive. Honestly I can let this slide but not without expressing that people did have a loss in this. You can call it what you will but in the end people put a lot of emotional value in this accident. The truth is this forum is close enough people put emotional value in a lot of post, otherwise asking for prayer would be pointless. Everyone reached out to help Ryan and was then dropped like a hot rock. Their trust (including mine) was betrayed. IMHO I dont see where people are wrong for expressing that. If people were posting that Ryan would be an enemy for life that would be one thing but conveying their distaste for his actions is helpful all the way around. You get the pressure off your chest and hopefully Ryan takes the gravity of his actions seriously. Folks there is a gravity to this. There are people up north that extended themselves and did so in vane. There are others that spent emotion and time on the subject to find out it was a lie. There is a lesson to be learned here and everyone wants to be sure he gets it. Most are doing that by telling them exactly the effects it had on them. Dont confuse that with Bashing him for the heck of it. That isnt at all whats going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Wow,I wasn't expecting this at all.When I heard your story Ryan I was concerned for your family.I had a similiar incedent that actually happened to me and I kinda relived the feelings I had that day.That was about as bad of a lie someone could tell,especially considering all the thoughtfull people associated with these forums.That being said,I know it was wrong,you know it was wrong,and everybody else on these forums know it was wrong,so I'm not going to preach about it,you have to live with it. I personally accept you apology and hope you don't get scared off of the Realtree forums.I enjoy your posts and always look forward to reading about your hunts and just how things are going.It will take time for this to go away,and I have a feeling you more than likely learned your lesson and won't be doing it again any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10acboy Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I haven't been on the forums for some time, but if what I read was true the WELL SAID GRIZ. [ QUOTE ] You Lied about all of this and I'm suppose to forgive you for it... No I don't think so... Yall can think what you want but this doesn't surprise me one bit about Ryan's lying. No sir not at all...For he has lied to me more then once and thought nothing about it. Like it was no big deal. Sorry folks but I have lost my trust in the guy from day one and the way I look at it, Ryan you are going to have to earn your trust back. After pulling a stupid stunt like this and involving your parents of all things, saying they were in a bad car wreck when they weren't. I would hate to think what your parents would say if they saw all of this...Dumb dumb dumb... It makes me wonder how many more lies you have told on here and to other folks... Just like I told you before Ryan I don't trust you at all and you need to do alot of growing up... Call me old fashion or just plan ole human but I don't take to kindly being lied to... Man oh man what a deal...What a let down... [/ QUOTE ] Amen brother! Sorry, but I don't forgive easily, and I still try to believe that their are decent people out there where a handshake or word is all I need, but this is another example of how hard it is to find people like that. Using your family to solve your issues in the way that you did, you should be ashamed of yourself. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Don't know the guy (other than through this forum) and don't know any details about what went on other than what's been posted here. But my best advice for Ryan is to go forward and make sure you never ever lie to anyone again. Eventually you'll regain the trust of some of the people you've hurt. But lie again and the damage may be beyond repair. My .02 worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Racksnbeards Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Ryan, I dont know what happened, and don't consider it any of my buisness, I do however think you have started to do right by appologizing. Only time will tell. You were the first person I ever traded guns with online. During our trade, my wife was hospitalized, you worked with me, you were paitent, and supporting. That showed me your character. Take care, and remember these are all bumps on a long road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! You have hit the bottom!! Only one thing to do. Get up and prove us wrong. You have a long row to hoe and you have put a lot of work in front of you but I am sure if you put your mind to it you can conquer this and become a better person from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! WOW, the lies about the family is really low and totally unexpected Ryan. No doubt about that, but I am not here to judge you buddy and it is not my business your reasons for not wanting to stay in Wyoming. While it does take a person with some guts to openly admit something like this, I just am not sure what to think about this whole deal, there were a lot of people with genuine concerns praying for you and your family here, and I cannot believe you let this charade go on. I accept your apology, but at the same will question things you post in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxStarr Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! [ QUOTE ] All I know is that it takes a GIRL to lie and A MAN to fix it! [/ QUOTE ] WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! [ QUOTE ] Don't know the guy (other than through this forum) and don't know any details about what went on other than what's been posted here. But my best advice for Ryan is to go forward and make sure you never ever lie to anyone again. Eventually you'll regain the trust of some of the people you've hurt. But lie again and the damage may be beyond repair. My .02 worth... [/ QUOTE ] Well said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Apology accepted here bro. People can do some crazy stuff in stressful situations like this. We all make mistakes. Things will be fine, and deep down you know where you belong... at home in OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntn4bucks Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! [ QUOTE ] Guys I need to come clean. I can't live like this. And you guys will hate me for it or respect me for it. [/ QUOTE ] Respect??? I don't think so... Why should I respect you for something that shouldn't have been done in the first place? Hate you??? No, I don't hate you either because I really don't know you other than from your 12,000+ posts. You say you have your reasons and maybe you do but it just disappoints me that you used such a horrible incident as your excuse. Sorry dude, you've really disappointed me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I just don't understand why you didn't just tell us the truth from the start. This was going to spawn another lie most deffinately, because next I have a suspicion you would have said your parents wanted you to stay put or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousoonerfan22 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! This is the first I've read on this since Steve posted about Ryan heading back home.I understand the anger for those that was involved in this move but my thoughts are he certainly hurt his reputation by making up a lie but he's young and made a mistake,we've all made mistakes.I think he was concerned about letting people down and not only being young but moving halfway across the country would have to be stressfull.I can't stand for someone to lie to me but at least he had enough guts to come back on here an apologize.I think he will need to learn from this and earn not only our respect but respect for himself and not to ever do this to his friends again. Ryan I accept your apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! He's young is about all you have to say about that. I see people getting on him.....understandably so....about "manning up" and "doing the right thing". Well, you guys are--in most cases--a lot older than Ryan. Are you telling me that as a young person you NEVER EVER did anything that was so blatently stupid that you hesitate to talk about it now? And are you telling me "if you would just give me one more chance"...... Not trying to stir trouble but I sense a lot of forgotten hypocracy afoot here. Getting to be a man takes some fumbling and some stumbling and our friend Ryan just did both. He will get there, I think. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Man I still can't believe all of this... Simply unreal... You know when I was growing up the number one rule in our house hold is "Don't Lie" and Lord help me if I had ever said something like that about my folks. You know sometimes honesty will make you fill like a fool but a down right lie will get you into deep trouble. If you can't tell the truth and be honest about what you say. Then the next best thing is keep your mouth shut and don't say nothing at all... Like I said before...Lying is lying...There is no excuse for it... That is one thing I can not stand...I don't like it and I don't do it...Period!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newarcher Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I know I have as well...... I am just talking out loud is all....acutally typing out loud! . I am talking to myself as much as anyone else and my comments weren't directed towards anyone in particular. I have done things in the heat of the moment or out of sheer desperation when I was younger that simply defied logic or common sense. Some were just dumb and some were downright embarrassing. It is the nature of a young person to do stupid stuff. I am just trying to explain that while many have the right to be outraged, some temperance would go a long way because we have ALL BEEN THERE. If you say you haven't you're lying now. This will serve as a great lesson for Ryan. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Broncho10 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Dang Ryan, what in the World was that all about? My mind is running circles trying to figure out what all has happened. You had Andrea and I concerned about you and your family. When I was reading the post about your mother, I actually teared up and was thinking to myself how quick a life can change from things like that. I was putting myself in your shoes and was heart broken. Thought it was kinda funny when no one back in Tuttle had heard of it. I believe you should have put a little more thought into this before you made a post. There are a lot of people on here that are close to you and personally know you. I know you are thinking the same thing right now, but dang man...anything other than the well being of your family. You'll be ok, just take this as a lesson learned and move on. Wow....just speechless!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Ryan it seems to me that you took your real family and you realtree family for granted in posting such a horrible lie.....maybe to you we are just a bunch of screen names, but to us your our brother whom we all cared for and wanted to see suceed and help out, and then you let us down by this. Thats a very low thing to do when you say your mother is in "critical" care. I'm disgusted by this developement, and I have lost alot of respect for you because of this. But with that said I accept your apology, but I'm afraid the trust is lost and gone. Good luck in life and I hope everything works out for ya. Learn from this and don't do it again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I am currious to know if you actually thought you would get away with this? You had to have known that this board would be planning some sort of gesture for your family. How did you plan to deal with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I just hope you have learned a valuable lesson in humility and don't let this sociopathic (sp) behavior continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! [ QUOTE ] I am currious to know if you actually thought you would get away with this? You had to have known that this board would be planning some sort of gesture for your family. How did you plan to deal with that? [/ QUOTE ] Squash it. He realized he couldn't do the job and pulled a piece of stupid. He knows that now and you want to keep dragging him down over it. We all make mistakes. Accept his apology or don't but let the man without sin cast the first stone. I doubt you or anybody else would step up to that line to cast it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! Ugggg, come ON FOLKS. Why are we digging the dead horse up so we can beat it some more? So, he made a dumb mistake. He probably feels bad enough about it, why keep kicking him? New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! I think, IMHO, that it is time for this thread to get locked. The apology has been accepted or not, and it is starting to turn into a thread over justification for not accepting Ryan's apology. He lied about it, every single one of us has lied to someone about something in our lives. The sun will rise tomorrow, the birds will chirp, I'll have to go to work, and the cycle will repeat, as it will for all of us. In the grand scheme of things, this is a drop in the bucket. For some it will take a long time to regain trust in Ryan, for me, I never had any reason to not trust him in the first place, and while I admit that he screwed up, and he admits that he screwed up, there is forgiveness for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Re: Apology! All right guys, I believe this thread has run its course. Everyone has had ample time to post their thoughts on the subject. If need be, this post will be locked. But let's try to move on and let this thread die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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