slugshooter Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] Boy someone stirred up the hornets nest, lol, i feel it`s whatever faith you have, if you beleive Darwin, then we all evolved from a lower form of life. If your god fearing, then Adam and Eve is where we came from, it`s all in what your faith is.. [/ QUOTE ] I'm God fearing, and I don't believe in Adam and Eve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGARKAHNE Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Boy someone stirred up the hornets nest, lol, i feel it`s whatever faith you have, if you beleive Darwin, then we all evolved from a lower form of life. If your god fearing, then Adam and Eve is where we came from, it`s all in what your faith is.. [/ QUOTE ] I'm God fearing, and I don't believe in Adam and Eve. [/ QUOTE ] Could you explain that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Boy someone stirred up the hornets nest, lol, i feel it`s whatever faith you have, if you beleive Darwin, then we all evolved from a lower form of life. If your god fearing, then Adam and Eve is where we came from, it`s all in what your faith is.. [/ QUOTE ] I'm God fearing, and I don't believe in Adam and Eve. [/ QUOTE ] if you don`t beleive in Adam and Eve, how do you think we got here ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Of course I believe in millions and billions of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Here's some food for thought. In the 17th Century, the Archbishop of Ireland, James Usher, attempted to calculate the age of the earth by using the Bible as a calendar. He picked a point in the Bible that corresponded with recorded history in secular writings, and then worked backwards by using the ages of the people in the Bible, Methusaleh for example, which the Bible claims lived for what, 900 some odd years. The problem with this theory is that the Hebrews of that time played number games. Adding numbers to peoples ages was a way of honoring them. If you see a 7 at the end of someones age, that means they were well liked, it goes on and on depending on how much the person was admired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Boy someone stirred up the hornets nest, lol, i feel it`s whatever faith you have, if you beleive Darwin, then we all evolved from a lower form of life. If your god fearing, then Adam and Eve is where we came from, it`s all in what your faith is.. [/ QUOTE ] I'm God fearing, and I don't believe in Adam and Eve. [/ QUOTE ] if you don`t beleive in Adam and Eve, how do you think we got here ?? [/ QUOTE ] How we came to be is beyond the realm and scope of human understanding. It doesn't really matter how old the earth is, or who begat who, or who the first people to walk the earth was. All that matters is that we know that God created it, caused it to happen, and can cause it to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? The reason those begets are so important, is that they tell us who Jesus is and which line he came from, which in turn tells us he fulfilled all the old testament prophecies that were all pointing to his being born, and dieing for our sins. I believe the earth is only around 6,000 some odd years old. I also believe that what happened during the flood, was a supernatural event, and to reproduce what happened in that short time-span, would have taken millions of years to reproduce naturally. You just can't measure the supernatural. All the measuring tools man has are based on the natural progress of our aging earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] You just can't measure the supernatural. [/ QUOTE ] True. But I prefer to not think of God as a magician. Could he make anything and everything pop out of thin air, sure he could. But why would he or should he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGARKAHNE Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You just can't measure the supernatural. [/ QUOTE ] True. But I prefer to not think of God as a magician. Could he make anything and everything pop out of thin air, sure he could. But why would he or should he? [/ QUOTE ] So how exactly do you believe that the earth came into existence then if God didn't create it from nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? There are some very good points in this thread...my favorite 2 being oil and diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Yes, I believe in millions and billions of years. [ QUOTE ] Two things on earth that do prove "millions" - DIAMONDS and OIL! [/ QUOTE ] Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Diamonds, Oil and things like the grand canyon can easily be reproduced in a short time. 1. Diamonds and oil are said to have been created over millions of years with a certain amount of pressure over all those years. Yet man can create both in mere days with lots of pressure and lots of heat. Do we then limit God's power to less than our own? The grand canyon was said to have been created by a little water over millions of years. Who's to say that the receeding waters from the great flood of Noah didn't carve it out in a matter of weeks? Lots and lots of water over a short time would do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Well thankfully we can produce oil in mere days with pressure and heat, out oil prices are sure to plummet as we'll be whipping it up faster tha the oil industries pump from the ground what took millions of years to create. Maybe someone should tell Bush, he won't have to drill in the wildlife refuge in Alaska after all, we can make it. Do you really believe that we can create oil in mere days, I mean the kind we're raping mother earth to get??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] Well thankfully we can produce oil in mere days with pressure and heat, out oil prices are sure to plummet as we'll be whipping it up faster tha the oil industries pump from the ground what took millions of years to create. Maybe someone should tell Bush, he won't have to drill in the wildlife refuge in Alaska after all, we can make it. Do you really believe that we can create oil in mere days, I mean the kind we're raping mother earth to get??? [/ QUOTE ] I never said it was cheaper or efficiant, just possible. To answer your question, yes it is possible. That was a little mean spirited Saskman, not what I would expect from you. You disappoint me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? I aplogize if it was alittle mean spirited John. Looking back on it, yes it was. However, my opinion hasn't changed. You say that it is possible, just not as cheap or efficient. I'd like some proof b/c I cannot imagine how producing oil could be any more expensive than how we're extracting and refining it., the same goes for diamonds, why spend all that $$ mining for them if we can make them? Once again I apologize for being mean spirited, I guess that is why I should stay out of this forum, things get a little too personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBadger Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Once again it is just man tryin to disprove God's perfect word. [/ QUOTE ] Here in lies the problem. I don't understand why Religions always take a defensive stance. Why is science attempting to "disprove God's perfect word." What if science is only further explaining God's creation? I think its fair to say the Bible cannot completely explain something so far advanced as the cosmos and how mankind relates to it all. What if the Bible was intended to explain the world to man, using examples and metaphors? Now that mankind is increasing its knowledge, what if scienctific discovery is actually bring us closer to God and further explains what his intentions are? I know its human nature to immediately defend what we believe in and fight things that oppose our beliefs...but really, what if we're fighting over this issue for the wrong reasons. Don't fear the uncertain just because someone told you to. That sort of thinking is not condusive to progress. [/ QUOTE ] Very well put. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Diamonds Biodiesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGARKAHNE Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? Good point with those links johnf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? crock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Re: Do you believe in millions of years???? [ QUOTE ] crock [/ QUOTE ] good answer ...I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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