Swamphunter Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 The antler restriction poll leaves out the choice of "Maybe - if it were properly set up for my individual area". What may work in one part of the state, may not work in another. In NY state, where I live, you have to hunt hard to see even a 4 or 6 point, and can go seasons without seeing any bucks at all. I am not against antler restrictions as early in the season I would not be so apt to shoot a 4 point or a 6 point, but come Dec, if I am still skunked, I would really be tempted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Guess this poll is on the homepage Ken? Have not seen it yet, will have to go back and take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I support them all the way. It just give the bucks a chance to age a little more and also increases everyones chance of killing a keeper. I wish more states would adopt the program. I also like the earn a buck idea. Impliment earn a buck with antler restrictions, now you have the makings of a fine herd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I like to pass on the smaller ones in hope of seeing a nice P&Y buck, I try to do my part, when it crossed the fenceline I don't know what the neighbors will do! Some shoot anything that is brown, sad but true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Went back and voted. There was 76 percent in favor of ar's when I voted. Sure do wish this state would get a bit more aggressive and implement some restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I'm "for" but would like to see a kids provision to shoot a smaller one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll [ QUOTE ] I like to pass on the smaller ones in hope of seeing a nice P&Y buck, I try to do my part, when it crossed the fenceline I don't know what the neighbors will do! Some shoot anything that is brown, sad but true! [/ QUOTE ] Promote the heck out of QDM. Talk to all the neighboring landowners about it. It took me 6 years but we are now reaping the bennefits. Persistance pays off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll [ QUOTE ] I'm "for" but would like to see a kids provision to shoot a smaller one. [/ QUOTE ] They can still kill all the does they want. The restrictions is kept in place will actually improve their hunting more so than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I'm against it. Starting to see alot of bigger deer with crap racks, like big fork horns. Too much inferior genes being passed. I think we all get the visions of these huge deer that you see on ranches tec, thats simply not going to happen on public grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unioncountyslayer Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll [ QUOTE ] The antler restriction poll leaves out the choice of "Maybe - if it were properly set up for my individual area". What may work in one part of the state, may not work in another. In NY state, where I live, you have to hunt hard to see even a 4 or 6 point, and can go seasons without seeing any bucks at all. [/ QUOTE ] The only question I would have for you on this quote is, if there were antler restrictions wouldn't those 4 and 6 pointers make it to be bigger deer? Then you would have the opportunity to shoot bigger bucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll To each there own! If I enjoy what I have now on my side of the hill do not mandate that I must practice antler restriction just because the guys on the other side want to. You want bigger racks? Then practice antler restriction and have fun. Don't force me to do it. I realize that if I get tired of shooting crotch horns or 6 points that it is my responsibility to make changes on my property. I will not go whining to the DEC with my woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll here in ar we have an antler restiction, we have a three point rule 3 points per side some counties have a 4 point rule, and spikes less than 2 inch, i think it works out pretty well at least the deer get to get a little age before they get shot verses some places ive hunted that any thing with antlers gets shot, but i guess to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll A wise man once told me: "Never pass up a shot on opening day that you would "settle for" on the last day of the season." And no matter how much ketchup you use, you still can't eat the antlers. In my part of the woods, you can hunt the entire two week season and might not get a shot. If you're putting meat on the table you take what God puts in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll i'l say that was a wise man, id never pass on a shot on opening day that i would wish i had the shot at the end of the season, but than ive never went two weeks in the woods and havent see any deer. if i just hunted for meat id kill my quota in does, jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I hunt an area with the aid of a guide in the Adirondacks where Antler Restrictions are practiced. It's public land but so remote none of the locals (the guys that only hunt the area). Who else hunts this area? NO ONE!!! Now that I am a resident and have paid my guide fees for the past 7 years, I might be able to join one of the two groups of guys and start guiding myself. Well, maybe. Anyway, 10 years ago no one practiced AR. Now no one shoots smaller than an 8pt unless it's a mamoth 6er. We know those are not that common anyway. Now out of about 8 guys depending on hthe year, 6 score bucks over the 120 class every year. It's all about the discipline and desire about shooting a higher aged class of deer. Meat comes from the ML and bow that can shoot flatheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Thats right the meat hunters can kill does if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI2506 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll being a dairy farmer, what your saying is the exact opposite of what it should be..take the small bucks if you must but leave the large bucks to continue on the tradtion of good genetics..Thats just the way we do things, are you saying that all these 4 pointers will end up being the quality of the 8 pointers that you are harvesting? If we as dairy farmers only keep the immature lower quality animals we would be going backwards with our genetics.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Most hunters in my area practice with their own restrictions anyway, including my family. I personally am not in favor of gov't regulated antler restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rifleman25 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll [ QUOTE ] being a dairy farmer, what your saying is the exact opposite of what it should be..take the small bucks if you must but leave the large bucks to continue on the tradtion of good genetics..Thats just the way we do things, are you saying that all these 4 pointers will end up being the quality of the 8 pointers that you are harvesting? If we as dairy farmers only keep the immature lower quality animals we would be going backwards with our genetics.. [/ QUOTE ] Give those little ones a chance to hit 4 or 5 years old and I think you'd be suprised as to what they turn into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I like and support antler restrictions. They were just implemented in the DMU where I primarily gun hunt in region 3H in NYS,Sullivan county. Youth are exempt from the AR's. I hang out/help out at a local butcher up there in Sullivan county after the days hunt and I see approx 2-250 deer being brought in for butchering throughout the season. 80% are small forkhorns and basket racked 6's with a large quantity of spikes. That deer herd needs help up there. Matter of fact they have restricted the issuing of DMP tags to preference point holders only. The genes are there in the herd, but you cant shoot a big buck if you shoot the littles ones. Let the little ones walk... Besides...a mature doe(meat) is tougher trophy and a harder hunt than a hormone raging buck which is letting his little head do the thinking Where I bowhunt here in suburbia, 38 miles north of NYC. AR's are not needed the bucks get REAL old around here. No access to land to hunt'em on. I am not for forcing people to like what I like, but most of the time the decisions are based on the feedback of hunters and other sportsmen. I think DEC has had many letters on this subject and decided to go ahead with it. Tomorrow evening my son and I are attending a Deer Ecology/QDMA seminar at Gander mountain in Middletown,NY 7pm The quest for more deer knoledge continues!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Im in favor but the goverment doesnt have one here in WV. We as a family have our own tho. Really we like 6pt or bigger and your only aloud one buck a year on my uncles farm thats including bow and gun and ML. But can kill as many does as wanted for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll when i outfitted, my hunters shot a trophy buck or 6 point bull elk, or they went home empty. i spelled it out clearly in my brochures, and never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI2506 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll http://www.hrbizmall.com/catalog/article...3cbf2d14c27f4ea check this article out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll Letting a 3.5yr old 4 point walk does not make him a better buck next year. A bucks main frame antlers are seen by his second rack. It just makes for a bigger 4 pointer in most cases. Some antler restrictions work , but most that I have seen leave out the ability for a hunter to harvest a deer that has small antlers and is genetically inferior. I have seen alot of old bucks that sport small antlers and need to be harvested, but certain antler restrictions do not allow it. Look at most areas that produce alot of big antlered bucks ( ie...South Texas, Kansas, Canada, Milk River Montana ) none that I know have antler restrictions and they keep putting alot of deer in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Antler restriction poll I am totally against mandatory antler restrictions. You hunt your way, and don't worry about the way Joe down the road chooses to hunt. I'm not into strictly trophy hunting, and if I choose to shoot a 4 or 6 pointer, I don't want someone telling me that I can't because people want me to pass it up. There will always be some big deer around. Shoot the ones you feel like shooting, and I'll do the same. As`was already said, antlers probaly don't taste good. And why should I have to shoot a doe, just to please you. Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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