vagobbln Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Allright Goldtip guys, help a brotha' out here. After shooting ACC's for many years and never having a problem (other than the expense), I bought my first dozen Goldtip Pro Hunter's a couple of weeks ago. I lost my fourth insert last night inside my Block target. This one had a Muzzy on it too. Anyhoo, what kind of glue do you guys use on your inserts? Obviously, I need to do something different. After I cut the shafts I cleaned out all the carbon dust and even tried roughing up the inside with a little piece of scotchbrite pad. Thought that would help. It didn't. Never had this problem with the ACC's, of course it has the aluminum inside. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue well what glue did you use? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue Man, I had that same problem. 5 of my inserts came loose in my GT pro hunters. I just bought some Loc Tite Super Glue gel, but I haven't shot broadheads yet, as I'm a little gun shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue LOC TITE Super Glue Gel!!!!!! I started using it AFTER loosing many a insert and FP in my Block 4x4. Since changing to this stuff, I have lost ZERO, I shoot my BH into a morrel Yellow Jacket, and no problems here either Stuff like this keeps popping up about GT's, I am gonna switch for next year........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagobbln Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue [ QUOTE ] well what glue did you use? Steve [/ QUOTE ] At first I tried Bohning Ferr-L-Tite (hotmelt) just because it's what I've always used. I always liked it because it was easy to make adjustments if needed by simply reheating the insert a bit. Never had any problems with it. It apparently won't bond hardly at all with the carbon though. Just because I had it on hand, I also tried a couple with the Goat Tuff, but even those didn't hold. I really don't want to use cycroanylate (superglue) unless I have to. It's kind of hard to make further adjustments with that stuff. Right now I've got to go buy some more inserts before I can use anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue Think I used epoxy when I first got my sst carbons on the outserts. Been using the fletching glue that came with my plastifletch vanes on nocks and any outserts that might need replaced. That stuff is the same thing as super glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue I am having the same problems. I am using loctite but not the gel. Guess I need to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue I have always used the epoxy that Easton has, never an issue with inserts coming out. Never heard of loctite glue but I know loctite makes some great thread sealant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagobbln Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue Sorry some of you guys are having the same problem, but I'm glad it's not just me! I was beginning to think I wasn't holding my mouth right or something. I'll try the gel too I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue I use the Epoxy by easton also ... never ever had an insert come out on me ...except for when I shot the srrow through plywood and I pulled so hard the insert actually came out ... lol but I dont usually shoot into plywood ... I just missed the target ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123 4/8 P&Y Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue AAE or Easton epoxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123 4/8 P&Y Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Re: Insert Glue [ QUOTE ] I lost my fourth insert last night inside my Block target. This one had a Muzzy on it too. [/ QUOTE ] You better try and push that Muzzy through the backside of the block before you shoot it and ruin another broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue I have been using Bohning Powerbond on Gold Tips, and Carbon Express shafts. It isn't a quick set like super glue,. I like that, because it gives me plenty of time to spin test, and adjust my broadheads. I have pulled GT's fron trees, using all my weight, and had the insert stay in the arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue Hotmelt all the way. i like the ability to rotate my inserts to be able to spin tune my broadheads. i simply heat a field tip in the insert, turn it a 1/4 turn and then spin again. i repeat this until i find the perfect spot for that insert /broadhead combination.. out of the hundreds of dozens of arrows out local shop has made not one insetrt pulled out using hotmelt and these are mostly Goldtip arrows. Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oucorey Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue I had the same problem with hotmelt. Changed to Loc Tite Super Glue Gel and haven't had any problems since. Good luck, Corey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue Here's the reply I got from Gold Tip: [ QUOTE ] The problem is probably the glue he used to glue them in. We cannot control what the dealers use to glue their inserts in with. We recommend our Tip Grip which is a high quality Cynoacrolyte that has been thoroughly tested. If you use this stuff you wont have any problem. My guess is that they used hot melt or a fast cure epoxy. With carbon shafts the Super Glues work much better as the shaft material is very porous and really bonds well. I would go back to the dealer and have him reinsert them a make sure he uses a reputable super glue, or Tip grip as we recommend. Tim Gillingham National Shooting Staff Manager [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagobbln Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue [ QUOTE ] Hotmelt all the way. i like the ability to rotate my inserts to be able to spin tune my broadheads. i simply heat a field tip in the insert, turn it a 1/4 turn and then spin again. i repeat this until i find the perfect spot for that insert /broadhead combination.. Shoot Strong Tony [/ QUOTE ] That's exactly why I like the hotmelt too, but if the darn things won't stay in the arrow I've got to find something else. Which hotmelt glue do you use Tony? [ QUOTE ] You better try and push that Muzzy through the backside of the block before you shoot it and ruin another broadhead. [/ QUOTE ] Believe me, I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Re: Insert Glue LOL Tony GT says not to use hot glue ... specifically and they tell you why ... I dont think I would be recomending something that GT says not to do ... and they give a very good reason as to why not to ... especially since he tried it already ...I would use what GT says to use ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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