Turkeygirl Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ok, yesterday I went out and shot my bow. kind of windy but I needed to practice. Andy raised the draw weight on it the other day - turned each nob once - he said it might shoot a little high. well I go out to shoot yesterday and it didn't really shoot too high but my arrows were going tothe right a little and at 30 yards they really went to the right? I had them right one last time I shot (at theb ow shop a week ago). I'm wondering could it have been the wind? the wind was blowing from left to right and it wasn't a gentle breeze either. I know I read somewhere it's hard to adjust your sights in windy weather - affects your windage. i didn't adjust them because I couldn't find the wrench. I'm going to shoot today when I get home and hopefully it is calm. Think it was the wind or any other thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? Yep, the wind can most definitely blow your arrows off their mark depending on how far you are shooting and on how fast your setup is shooting. Was shooting in high winds at 40 here a couple weeks ago and my arrows were hitting about 5 inches off in the direction of the wind without me attempting to compensate for the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteRunner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? Shoot it again before you make Adjustments. It may have been in the wind or maybe your form, since it happened at the shop too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? Could be just the wind, TG. Could be a tuning issue, also. If it does that in calm conditions, you may need to walk back tune. And finally, you could have the same problem Hutchies was having. It could be a spine issue with your arrow now that you've bumped up the poundage. Hopefully, its just the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? hmmm I hope it's just the wind, because it shot awesome at the shop last week. I'm shooting Beman ICS 500 (7.3g) and i think my poundage is around 44/45. It was at 43 before we turned the weight up a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? I would say its just a Wind Related Problem. If it does the same thing without wind, from one distance, it could be Fishtailing...that would be an Arrow Rest Issue. With the Spine your shooting at your draw weight your fine. The reason I dont think it's Fishtailing is that the direction of the arrow into the target face would change at different distances. Fishtailing means It would be flexing sideways like a fishes tail and at different distances the tail would be at a different angle when it stopped...in this case after the arrow hit the target. Since you've shot at different ranges and it's consistently going to the right I dont think it's an Arrow Rest or Arrow Spine Issue. On a calm wind day, or at an indoor range if possible, if your arrow consistently goes to the right...Then adjust your sight pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPic Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? your arrows should be spined right for that weight--most likely the wind kicking them around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? Any idea of exactly how much the wind was blowing? If the distance you were off increased the farther you got away from the target I would guess that it is form. It could be the wind, but it could have been your form. Try again on a day with less wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? Sounds like wind, or form change due to increased weight..........if you were at 43 and turned each bolt one full time, then you are now at 46 pounds, so your arrows are fine for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missouri hunter Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Re: Why? It sounds like a tuning issue. At the lower draw weight a small imperfection may not have been noticable but once you crank it up and shoot a little faster the flaw really comes out. This is the same principle, when you shoot at 20 yards and are dead on but move back to 30 or 40 you shoot a good group but they are off center, the small flaw multiplies the further your arrow flies. Or it could have been the wind. Shoot again before you go changing things. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? Shot my bow this evening, barely a breeze if any at all. Arrows didn't go to the right as much but still going there a little bit, but they were shooting very consistent. Now out at 30 yards they were hitting consistent but hitting about 5-6 inches from the center of the target. Is it normal for the arrows to hit farther right the farther out I'm shooting? I'm going to shoot tomorrow after work and maybe see if it's my form, but all the arrows are hitting the same place, just to the right. In fact I just about robin hooded an arrow - the one arrow hit and cracked the nock on the other arrow so it looks like I'll have to run to theb ow shop to get it replaced. I was wondering - how do you consistently keep your same anchor point? The only thing I remember is that I have the string just on the side of the tip of my nose but I'm trying to find out if I can dosomething else to maybe keep a more consistent anchor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? Is it possible your sight is off a little. 1 inch at 10 yards, would be off 3 inches at 30 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman312 Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? could it be your sights got knocked a little while at the shop? Wind will mess you up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? You have to shoot about 150 arrows to stretch that string ... there will be some movement till the string gets stretched out ... and if that the Cam and half then you need to make sure they are timed after you shoot it too ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechsBlondie Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? it could be your sight cas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? [ QUOTE ] Shot my bow this evening, barely a breeze if any at all. Arrows didn't go to the right as much but still going there a little bit, but they were shooting very consistent. Now out at 30 yards they were hitting consistent but hitting about 5-6 inches from the center of the target. Is it normal for the arrows to hit farther right the farther out I'm shooting? I'm going to shoot tomorrow after work and maybe see if it's my form, but all the arrows are hitting the same place, just to the right. In fact I just about robin hooded an arrow - the one arrow hit and cracked the nock on the other arrow so it looks like I'll have to run to theb ow shop to get it replaced. I was wondering - how do you consistently keep your same anchor point? The only thing I remember is that I have the string just on the side of the tip of my nose but I'm trying to find out if I can dosomething else to maybe keep a more consistent anchor? [/ QUOTE ] I'm betting an inconsistent anchor is to blame. Lots of beginning bowhunters have "Floating" anchors. What I mean by that is you only anchor in the same spot when you start a shooting session at the range. Putting a kisser button below your peep helps cure that problem. Remember the other end of your anchor is in your grip hand. Gripping just a 1/4" off center will easily move your arrows left of right as much as three inches at 20yds. If you concentrate on gripping the bow in the same spot and anchoring in the same spot these mysteries go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? Thanks for the input everyone. I will shoot again today though it is going to be breezy:( I'll concentrate on form and if need be, move my sight to the right a little and see what happens. Ok, what is timing and how do you know if a bow needs to be timed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Re: Why? Always, always, always, sight in your centershot (left and right) at 30 yards, because anything under that will mask the centershot being off. Sounds to me like you need to bump your sights to the right about 1/8", see where it hits, then another 1/8" if it's off still. Continue with 1/8" at a time until center is there. Timing is the rate at which both cams turn in contrast to each other.......your shooting a Hoyt which has the Cams "Slaved" together so you don't need to worry about timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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