Jeramie Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 We have a guy that technically isnt our boss but is heading our drafting department. This guy things he is our boss and is constantly stirring the pot about stupid stuff. In fact he has ruined a lot of flexible work schedules for countless employees because he didn't agree with one guys time sheet. Now all departments are stuck to a hard core schedule..... Anyway, this guy use to be nice until he was made the drafting manager. Now he is on a power trip. Im close to running him over with my truck. He constantly grips about our work schedule because we leave at 4:30 instead of 5:00 Even though im here before 5:00 a.m. every morning. He is always questioning everything we do. And now I find out he was standing behind my cubical peeking through the cracks trying to watch me work. Another employee caught him and he quickly ducked out and tried to act as if he was just joking around with me. I never knew he was there..... This guy is a control freak and he isn't even our boss... However, he thinks he is. He also has an inferiority complex. This week he managed to "accidentally" drop one of his business cards in the hall for all to see and it laid there for hours. I guess that card makes him feel important. I guess im going to have to blow up on him to get him to quit acting like a punk...... I hate to do it as im typically very laid back but im sick of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... make sure you have a great attorney before you do it jeramie some people just like to be buttheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Refer to your sig, that will tell you what to do!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... I'd go straight to the real boss on this.....or slug him one in the chops....either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... PEOPLE AND TITLES!!! It sure is nice to be away from that crap!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeck Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... man, I don't envy you one bit. Worked for a man like that for 1 1/2 years. boy was that a struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Write everything down, so you have a good handle on all your and other employee's complaints. Go to the "real" boss, and ask him if he would sit in on this discussion. It's good to blow sometimes...it clears the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Yep..............take it to the REAL man in charge. And I am sure all your other associates will back you up. This guy sounds like a real loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exturkinator Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... [ QUOTE ] Refer to your sig, that will tell you what to do!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Patric Swayze always did give good advice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... If you take it the real boss make sure that you have all your ducks in a row and keep things on topic. Facts are important, feelings (even though important) can really get in the way and can sidetrack a constructive meeting and turn it into a whining session that gets noone anywhere. Write down your topic points and stick to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Great idea gang. Ive started a list today. Withing a week it will be a couple of pages long, literally. My first reaction it to go gripe to our boss but Ill wait on that. After I have a couple of pages Ill go see him. My buddy that I work with has already been in there once. He twisted off too... This guy has had the job a couple of months and is already about to drive us all nuts (or drive us to killing him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Might want to make sure he doesn't know about this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughboy1956 Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... Glad i,m retired Jeramie. I had a few like that at some jops. The best way i found to get back to normal is to talk to the rest of workers who are having the same problem and to a work slowdown until he backs off. I don,t know if it would work in your type of jop but here is how we handled one new guy that was promoted to forman. We were unloading boxcars of 100 bags of potatoes and there were two men to each bag and we loaded them on trollies and when he got the promotion he wanted one man to a bag and they were to be piled up over are heads. There were about ten boxcars being unloaded so that was 20 men he had to watch but could only be in one car at a time with 2 men and the other 18 just set down and watched for him to come before working. When the boats were not leaving on time he was called into the office. He came back and told us that he knew what we were doing and it was getting him in trouble with the big boss. He told us we could go back two men to a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... [ QUOTE ] Write everything down, so you have a good handle on all your and other employee's complaints. Go to the "real" boss, and ask him if he would sit in on this discussion. It's good to blow sometimes...it clears the air. [/ QUOTE ] Good advice right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager..... I had a foreman like that one time, great guy till he started going through a divorce, child custody, etc...He couldnt leave his problems at home and became a real pain in the butt, it got so he was endangering people with his actions at work.Finally one day after he put me 60 ft in the air in the basket of a crane to trim a job out in the middle of an ice storm when the windchill was -30 I had enough, I told them I wanted put on another crew, they refused, I quit.People like that arent worth wasting your time on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... I don't know why it is that in business, "IT" always rises to the top? Why can't people who value employees and are nice ever make it to manager? We have a jerk boss here that was overheard saying that another employee should come see someone in my department "if you can find someone smart enough". That flew all over me......I have two degrees and graduated in the top 8 students in my MBA class, I am sure that I am smarter than that anti-social, personality devoid digit humper (computer programmer and not meant in a dirty way). He is notorious for calling people stupid in meetings and telling them to shut up or something like that. I told my wife that if he ever does it to me, she had better bail me out. I imagine he would wet himself when I get in his face and tell him to say it again....I am 6'3 280 and he is about 5'8 190. Some people..... As for your situation, I would just ignore him. If he has no line authority over you who cares. What you could do is just ask him in a very friendly way "Hey Dave (or what ever his name is), do you need something? [when he seems startled, say:]....so and so said you were standing near my cube looking in but took off when you saw them coming, so I thought maybe you needed something. I have an open cubicel policy so please feel free to drop in and discuss anything you need". New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... Open Cubical policy.... Ok, Im playing his insecurity. Yes its mean but if he wants to act like a child. Ive always talked to him about hunting, hiking, camping, guitars, music, sheet music, etc. We typically sat around for about 10-minutes in the morning and talked about stuff like that. Since I learned he has another face I shrugged him. I literally didn't say 2-words to him yesterday that wasn't work related. I was polite on every work related issue but cut it off at that. It bored under his skin and by mid afternoon he was in here no less than 3-times trying to fire up conversation. Honestly, Im easy. It took a lot for me to keep from talking to him because I am so forgiving but its not going to happen. He would slip right back into his power trip. So instead he severed his ties in terms of being buddy, buddy. Now he is on his own. Ill show up and put in a days worth of work but with something like 250 other office employees Im sure I can find someone to associate with on a personal level. I hate to do that because he really loves the outdoors but I refuse to associate with someone who says, "Watch this hand!" and then slaps you with the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... Yeah, watch those types.... Honestly, Jeramie, I would be careful with that approach. The reason is that if he was recently promoted, someone somewhere likes him. So, he could go and say...."yeah, that Jeramie, he just isn't our material". He could make your career or break it. I never found that the passive aggressive approach works well, it usually comes back to haunt you somehow. They usually end up playing the victim and to the managers above this dolt, they don't care one bit about anyone other than themselves and their bonuses......this is just another headache to them that they have to handle. I had a boss that was like that once. Kept asking me to lunch and I thought "hey, I have someone I can trust that is looking out for me". Well, I told her many times (knowing the numbers are bad) that if the decision was ever made to get rid of me that she should just tell me. I would transition my projects and I would use that time to find a new job....nope. When they did it, I had just come back from vacation and had a wife that was 13 weeks pregnant....they gave me virtually nothing in the way of severance. Trust no one period, that's my new montre. I also vowed that if I was ever a manager, I would treat my people better than I was treated but honestly it doesn't work that way. You can't get anywhere caring about people in today's business world.....that's a fact. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... I know the cold shoulder can be dangerous on most occasions but not this one. They promoted him because he was in house and had more experience then the other candidates. Between me and one other guy we have handled a record year. That gives us some clout. Plus our boss (including the drafting manager's) likes me pretty well. It would take more than his opinion for them to terminate me. The boss over our department is at odds with him right now. I think he has a pretty good handle on the guy's attitude. He has already received complaints and not by me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... Gotcha, well at least you have those things going for you. When you don't have anyone taking your side, it gets tough! Best of luck, New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... His boss will try and make it work with him. This guys failure will be a reflection on him. He chose to promote this guy, so he wants him to succeed. Make no mistake he will take your comments personally. I've seen plenty of times where weak managers select a "Team Leader" to do the things they were told to do but were afraid to. Ask this "Team Leader" if he is doing what he was told to do or if he's acting completely on his own. You might be in for a surprise. It actually may not be his fault. If he is acting on his own. Ask him if he ran that idea past his superior. If he tells you something like, "I don't have to get permission to do anything." I promise that is the worst possible answer he could give, tell his superior that he said that and it will land him in a heap of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdeerhunter03 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Re: I want to strangle my new drafting manager.... KICK HIM IN THE JUNK!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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