30-30 WIN.


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Re: 30-30 WIN.

I have not. I rarely drag my 30/30 out anymore but I will say Im hearing good press on the new cartridge.

The 30/ already holds decent groups at 100yds. Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy. Ive heard many claims about the round, some I can believe but some I cant.

Regardless, from what ive read and heard they are a smart choice and far surpass any current cartridge out there for the old 30/30.

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Re: 30-30 WIN.

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Ok I'll bite, wouldn't a pointed projectile not improve bullet stability etc in the air, resulting in better groups?

I just assume that if I threw a pointed football as opposed to a flat fronted ball my downfield accuracy would be better with the pointed one? Don't you just love my great comparison! grin.gifgrin.gif

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Ok I'll bite, wouldn't a pointed projectile not improve bullet stability etc in the air, resulting in better groups?

I just assume that if I threw a pointed football as opposed to a flat fronted ball my downfield accuracy would be better with the pointed one? Don't you just love my great comparison! grin.gifgrin.gif

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Thats exactly my point (by the way, the football analogy is the perfect example).

Heck that is what everyone leads to you believe. If thats not true then how do so many bullet manufacturer push poly tipped bullets as being more accurate?

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Ok I'll bite, wouldn't a pointed projectile not improve bullet stability etc in the air, resulting in better groups?

I just assume that if I threw a pointed football as opposed to a flat fronted ball my downfield accuracy would be better with the pointed one? Don't you just love my great comparison! grin.gifgrin.gif

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Thats exactly my point (by the way, the football analogy is the perfect example).

Heck that is what everyone leads to you believe. If thats not true then how do so many bullet manufacturer push poly tipped bullets as being more accurate?

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We'll I just fiqured that AJ was probably right, but I am curious as to why? confused.gifconfused.gifconfused.gif

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Ok I'll bite, wouldn't a pointed projectile not improve bullet stability etc in the air, resulting in better groups?

I just assume that if I threw a pointed football as opposed to a flat fronted ball my downfield accuracy would be better with the pointed one? Don't you just love my great comparison! grin.gifgrin.gif

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Thats exactly my point (by the way, the football analogy is the perfect example).

Heck that is what everyone leads to you believe. If thats not true then how do so many bullet manufacturer push poly tipped bullets as being more accurate?

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We'll I just fiqured that AJ was probably right, but I am curious as to why? confused.gifconfused.gifconfused.gif

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Oh, I have little doubt. Aj is always on top of it. Ive just seen to many make that claim and was wondering on its foundation. Also, basic principles (such as the football) currently have me shaking my head.

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Re: 30-30 WIN.

I shot the Hornady ammo out of my Marlin 336C. I have it sighted in 2" high at 100yards, it hits @ 1" low at 200yards. I love the way it shoots. At 200yards I can put 5 shots in a 3" group, off of a rest of course.

I will be putting it to the test in 2 weeks in northern Maine. And then in WV for Thanksgiving weekend.

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Adding a aerodynamic tip and a tapered bullet can greatly increase accuracy.

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How does this happen? I can see it increasing ballistic coefficient which will give it more velocity and energy downrange, but how does it make it more accurate?

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Ok I'll bite, wouldn't a pointed projectile not improve bullet stability etc in the air, resulting in better groups?

I just assume that if I threw a pointed football as opposed to a flat fronted ball my downfield accuracy would be better with the pointed one? Don't you just love my great comparison! grin.gifgrin.gif

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It looks good on paper. So you say if a quarterback that spins it more will make more completions? tongue.gif You are assuming a non pointed bullet would have some yaw induced. As long as the bullet is stable which happens from the rifling, it will still fly straight. A decent example is a gun that shoots 150 gr pointed bullets very well. It may shoot 165 round nose bullets well also as it will have a similar bearing surface since the bullet will about the same length.

Where the difference can come into play is when the bullet slows down. The pointed bullet will loose less speed as is not as sensitive to the wind. It will be blown around less, making it a little more consistant from shot to shot. This difference is at the edge of the effective range of the round, so its not as big of a deal. If a shooter knows how to get a good group with a 30-30 at 250 yards, it will not matter which bullet he is shooting.

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