Nick Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yesterday morning I arrowed a nice little buck. He somehow made it about 100 yards across the soy bean field from my stand and into the neighbors standing corn field. I gave him a couple hours and tracked the blood to the edge of the soy beans and corn. I marked it and did the right thing and went to ask for permission to track him down. Well the land owners werent home because they farm and were out in the field. I stopped by the neighbors house to see if they might have a clue where the land owners were. He mentioned a couple fields to go check. Then told me " I doubt they will let you go out there...they dont like people out on their land.....they've busted people for trespassing before" . I explained to the neighbor my situation and he says "i wouldnt put it past them to go retreive the deer themselves and keep it." So I was a little worried. Well it got to be time to go to work and couldnt find the landowners ANYWHERE. I searched every field and them some that the neighbor told me. So before heading to work, I looked up the land owners phone number and took it with me. I gave them a call at my lunch break and sure enough a lady answered. I told them my name, where I hunted and my situation. She plain ole turned me down in a heartbeat saying that they didnt want me walking through their corn and destroying the plants. What do you say or do with an answer like that? I am still in a state of disbeleif and feel heartbroken and sorry for the deer. I almost wish I would have just went and got the deer and kept my mouth shut. But I did what was right. I guess that goes back to the classic line "good guys finish last". Has anybody else had a similar situation? Whats did you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock you need to contact the local game warden he may be able to be a go between and help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntin4ever Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Nick my uncle has had this happen to him twice on land he hunts...there is a landowner who has never let anyone hunt and does not want trepassing...two different times he has shot a deer and been turned down when inquiring about retrieving the deer then when my uncle returns to hunt that evening he sees the landowner's truck at the edge of the woods where the deer had entered....that kind of thing really does stink to high heaven....I agree that sometimes it makes you wonder if maybe you should just go get the deer and worry about the consequences if you get caught...but we gotta follow the rules...the thing that really stinks here in IN is that even with a game warden if the property owner refuses retrieval there is nothing that can be done...better luck next time man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Go get the deer and don't worry about it. Just make sure you are wearing camo and keep a look-out. If the deer went really far and you are at-risk being seen, then back out and chalk it up as bad luck. Otherwise go get the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock That stinks Nick. I'd be inclined to track that deer at night to retrieve it. But, you're right, you did the right thing. It's never happened to me, but it has to a buddy of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tunkhannockbowhunter Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock the same thing happened to my uncle a few years ago. he shot a good buck at our farm and it crossed to the neighbors. he went and asked permission and the old lady turned him down. she said that she didnt believe him and that he prolly shot it on her property. she then called another neighbors who "patrols" several landowners land for them. while this was going on i said screw it lets go get the deer. so my uncle and i went in, found the deer, and quickly got him over to our property. well here come jim the "patrol" man. he starts flipping out and says hes calling the game commission. the game commission then told him that if they would have come out there they would have let us get the deer regardless of what the landowner or anyone else says. so i think you should call the game warden and get some help, or just sneak in their and get the deer, as long as you really did shoot it where you have permission to hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bghunter777 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I know I would go get the deer. no question in my mind that fires me up just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Around here we have a standing rule as landowners, if you are tracking blood, and sure the deer is mortaly wounded you go get it. Sorry to hear those people didnt let you follow up Nick...they may have had some bad experiences with other unethical hunters?? You did right...now go get your deer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zemmer18 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I shot a doe last year and it corssed into private property. I called the landowner and asked if I could go track it. He stated yes fortunately but he said he would be right up to help. Little did I know I was going to get lectured about poachers and people patrolling the land so I had better ask. He stated he has a retired police officer riding around on horseback patrolling his land. It was funny though because we walked a quarter mile circle in the snow and never crossed any horse tracks. He brought his two way radio with him and pretended to be whispering to someone on it but they never seemed to respond. I saw him out this year driving an electric buggy patrolling the property line but he never saw me as I was in full camo. Thank goodness the doe I got this year stayed on the property I was hunting. I understand people being upset about trespassers and poachers but it's frustrating when you try to do the right thing and you still get treated like you are a criminal. Good Luck on the next one bud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock You know what is unethical here is the fact that this landowner would rather let this deer be wasted than to let you get it. I'd go get it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPGS22 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I would have got the deer to. You did the right thing by asking the land owner but sometimes you have to do the right thing too and just go get it. In PA the game commission would tell you to get the deer to regardless what the landowner said. The only thing you have to do is put down your weapon. I would still go get the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkillemquick Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I would probably go after it, I just wouldn't carry a weapon with me so they couldn't accuse me of hunting, just retrieving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock [ QUOTE ] That stinks Nick. I'd be inclined to track that deer at night to retrieve it. But, you're right, you did the right thing. It's never happened to me, but it has to a buddy of mine. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, If the game warden can't do anything for you, then wait till 1am and go get your deer. You would be doing the right thing for the deer!!!! --rossman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock It is the right hting to do to ask permission, but is it right to deny someone permission to recover a dead animal and let the meat go to watse? I'd say go get your deer and be careful about it. The animal deserves it:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMAworks4me Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock If they want to be jerks be one back. I am guessing that they will go retrive that deer themselves. I would be watching for that and if they do call the game wordens and tell them you saw someone with a deer that did not put a tag on it. Chances are people like that will get the deer and tell everyone else they got it. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinArcher Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I too feel that its curtious to ask permission to get your deer when you know its expired. If I know that the landowner will give me grief, dont ask and get your deer. I feel that my downed game is very special to me, and would make sure to get it. Game wardens can help with these property issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I'd have been on the phone to the local GW muy pronto!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock You did the right thing Nick. I would have only done one thing different and it may have or may not have worked. When they said they didn't want you out there because hey didn't want any of their crop damaged, i would have offered them a $50 trespass fee for any possibly damage that might occur. I would also show some concern for there tractor tires IF the arrow was still in the deer. Basically make it sound like I'm trying to help them out as much as possible. If that didn't work I would probably call the game warden but at that point I'm not sure how much good it would do. I would not knowingly trespass on someones property to retrieve the deer, and even more so if they specifically told me no. Even though it's a shame to lose a deer in this kind of situation, it's better than doing something criminal - imo sneaking on to retrieve a deer isn't any different than sneaking on to shoot a deer. just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Sorry, but I would have gone and retrieved the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Sorry to hear that man. Down here if you have shot a deer and know it is going to die you can track on anyones land and you have permission to take your four wheeler on any trails that you can. Sucks to hear that. I would have went in that night and got it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest forsythe04 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock you go get that deer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock I would go after that deer! Thats just me I would wear my camo and not take my bow! Thats just me! Sorry neighbors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock [ QUOTE ] you need to contact the local game warden he may be able to be a go between and help [/ QUOTE ] Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! I have heard of this working in NY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock Yeah next time don't ask, just call the game warden and wait. Then show up to their house with them...That will teach them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Re: What A Crock You did the right thing. But I would have went and got the deer. Where I hunt in Jackson, the neighboring land owner doesnt like my buddy (who owns the land we hunt). Every deer we shoot runs on that guys property, so we just wait till dark and go get the deer. Its a shame we have to do that, but I'm getting the deer, I'm not letting the deer die for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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